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ASU Summer of 2011 applicants!

  1. 0 [font="comic sans ms"]hello all you asu nursing hopefuls,

    well, i decided to start this thread to get all of the arizona state bsn majors that are applying for the 16-month summer program starting in may of 2011 together. i went to the advancement workshop on 11/12/2010 and saw so many people there. i can't even imagine how many people will be applying. with only 100 seats open, it's going to be tough, although that's probably an understatement. the advancement scores for summer cycles have been lower than the traditional 24-month program in the past, but with all the changes that asu decided to make , i think things will be different this time around. i don't think my chances are very good compared to other applicants. i have a 3.81 gpa... realistically, i'll probably have to get like a 92% on the teas to be competitive against students that have a 4.0, which seems like most do. i don't think that's possible...but i gotta stay optimistic. with replacement course for sciences being virtually impossible to take (seeing how you need so many pre-reqs for them which the nursing program doesn't require), i'm starting to worry .however, all i can do is study my butt of for the teas and see what happens.

    anyhoo..... feel free to share comments and stories, ask questions, and connect with other students that are applying for the summer 2011 program. this is just a way for us to get through the long wait until april arrives and to provide encouragement for each other. :heartbeat
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  3. Visit  SEA3347 profile page
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    Hi! Thanks for starting this thread. Good luck to you! I also have a 3.814 GPA with a 86% TEAS score. Unfortunately I did not get into Spring 2011 but I am hopeful for Summer. Have you taken the TEAS exam yet? I am planning to retake the exam in hopes for a higher score. My concern is the number of applicants considering the new rules. Last summer only had 81 applicants but I fear this summer will be much higher. Look forward to reading what everyone has to say!
  4. Visit  nursingstudent21 profile page
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    Hey there SEA3347

    Wow, we are basically in the same boat here. My GPA is what is bringing me down, but taking any more replacement courses is just impossible at this point because the ones I need are the sciences and those require like 3 different pre-reqs that the nursing program doesn't require. Anyhoo...I don't really know what to expect for this summer. I was so confident (based on previous summer advancement scores and the fact that less people applied since it's more expensive) that I had a great shot at getting into the program for the summer until ASU decided to make all these changes. Based on how many people were at the advancement workshop I went to, it looks like there could be a lot of students applying because everyone is freaking out about the changes. It's definitely scary for me because I've waited so long to get into nursing school.

    I am actually planning on taking the TEAS at the end of January.... it is the deciding factor

    Definitely going to have my fingers, toes, and eyes crossed for the both of us!!!! Hopefully April gets here soon!
  5. Visit  JMurse89 profile page
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    Hey all, I'm hoping to get in to summer 2011 as well. Haven't taken the TEAS yet. If I don't get into ASU in Summer, then I'm applying to NAU in the Fall. I just can't keep up with the new requirements or the competitive GPA anymore. Perhaps the biggest factor is the fact that NAU will give me credit for the 1.5yrs I worked in an ER/Trauma Center.

    I can't even tell you how many upper division students that come in for their ED clinicals and don't have a clue what's going on. Not to be cocky, but my experience has really given me a head start for nursing school. I can't tell you how much I've learned- procedures, lab tests and values, med names, doses, uses, Xray/CT, EKG interpretation(including cardiac arrhythmias and how they are treated), and most of all- hands on skills- IV/phlebotomy, Foley insertion, anything involving patient care I've pretty much done, seen, or heard of. I would much rather wait till Fall for a program that gives me credit for my experience. Plus they'll let me skip Pathology since I took PathoPhys :P

    Just my 2 cents. Good luck to everyone! Lets keep each other updated on this advancement!

    Jeremy
  6. Visit  talenea88 profile page
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    How competitive has ASU become? I've been going back and forth between ASU and GCU! For ASU, I have a select GPA of 4.0 but havent taken my TEAS test yet! I completed my pre-reqs at a community college. But anyways, I'm just curious if anyone here knows what my chances are of getting into ASUs nursing program! :/ Thank you!
  7. Visit  JMurse89 profile page
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    Info given at the advancement workshop:

    -----------------------Cuttoff----------Avg GPA-------Avg TEAS score
    Summer 2010------5.447----------3.877----------N/A (They used the NET then)
    Fall 2010-------------5.569----------3.970----------86.9
    Spring 2011---------5.597-----------3.977---------86.0

    "Cutoff" refers to the lowest GPA advanced in that cohort.

    Summer 2011 will be a little different:
    They have 100 spots which is more than they've ever had. The advisors that ran the workshop said they've seen about 100 people so far, and this was at the second to last workshop. I'm hoping that, even if 125 people apply, I'd be smarter than 20% of applicants. My Select GPA is a 3.81, so I'd need an 82% on the TEAS to get a 5.45 Application GPA.

    Hope that helps!
    Last edit by JMurse89 on Dec 31, '10 : Reason: Formatting- hope you guys can still read the chart!
  8. Visit  SEA3347 profile page
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    Thanks Jeremy for the updated information about the number of applicants they have seen going through!!! It gives me hope for Summer as my GPA is about the same as yours. Good luck on your TEAS. I am retaking mine at the end of January in hopes for a higher score.
  9. Visit  nursingstudent21 profile page
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    Quote from EMTJeremy
    Info given at the advancement workshop:

    -----------------------Cuttoff----------Avg GPA-------Avg TEAS score
    Summer 2010------5.447----------3.877----------N/A (They used the NET then)
    Fall 2010-------------5.569----------3.970----------86.9
    Spring 2011---------5.597-----------3.977---------86.0

    "Cutoff" refers to the lowest GPA advanced in that cohort.

    Summer 2011 will be a little different:
    They have 100 spots which is more than they've ever had. The advisors that ran the workshop said they've seen about 100 people so far, and this was at the second to last workshop. I'm hoping that, even if 125 people apply, I'd be smarter than 20% of applicants. My Select GPA is a 3.81, so I'd need an 82% on the TEAS to get a 5.45 Application GPA.

    Hope that helps!
    Wow! I really hope that there are only 125 applicants. With all the changes that ASU is making, I figured so many more people would try to apply for the summer program than previous years. I guess we will just all try to keep each other posted and see what happens For now, it's really time to focus on studying for this TEAS test. I'm starting to get a little nervous here, taking the test on Jan. 28th :uhoh21:
  10. Visit  energizerbunny19 profile page
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    Hi guys!

    I'm planning on applying for the summer program as well. I take the TEAS on Friday and I'm really nervous!! I've been having trouble finding any information on actually taken the TEAS. I've took one of the online practice tests tonight and was wondering if anyone else has taken them and if it is at all similar to the actual test? Also, this is kind of stupid question... but you are allowed to use scratch paper, right? I like to know what to expect before tests and it freaks me out that you can't retake it unless you fail or apply a second time!
  11. Visit  energizerbunny19 profile page
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    Hi again everybody!

    So I took the TEAS test this morning and I'm so happy I'm all done with that. I got a 93.3%, so all that stressing was for nothing, although I did study my butt of the last few days prior to the test.

    Anyways, I'd love to hear from some of you about how you're doing with the TEAS and advancement and what not! This is such a scary process and it'd be great to talk to people who are all going through the same thing.

    I was also wondering if anyone knows anything about the Mayo program. I'd really like to get into the Mayo program versus the downtown program, but ASU provides such little information about it, even when I talked to an advisor! I know she told me it was competetive and you have to be ranked within the top 40 to have a shot... so that's a little scary. Let me know if you have more information about Mayo, because I'd love to know what I'm really getting myself into before I put Mayo as my first choice.

    I'd love to hear from you all and how you're all making it through this process... I know that its stressing me out like crazy and I'm sure some of you are probably feeling the same way!
  12. Visit  azita profile page
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    Wow energizer, that is a great score! Congratulations

    I am also interested in Mayo, but I am not sure because of the distance. I don't know much about the Mayo program; however, my patho teacher did give me her opinion on it when I asked her a few months ago. She said the programs were basically the same, but graduating from Mayo would give you the title as a "Mayo nurse" - and that has some sort of notoriety associated with it. On the flip side, she said the Downtown Phx program offers you excellent networking opportunities with different clinics and hospitals, instead of just one at Mayo.

    I will be taking my TEAS test on the 28th. I am extremely excited!!

    Anyways, congratulations again! I have been obsessively checking this site..and I keep hearing how the ATI study manual does not prepare you adequately for the test. I have the regular study manual, the Mcgraw Hill study manual, and the online practice tests. What resources did you use and did you feel like they were of any help?
  13. Visit  energizerbunny19 profile page
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    I used the ATI Study Manual and the on line practice tests. I found the study manual helpful for reviewing basic concepts for the reading, math, and English sections. Most of the information on these three sections you've learned at some point in elementary in middle school. Reviewing the basic concepts of understanding how to interpret passages, basic math (and I mean REALLY basic - it doesn't go beyond very basic algebraic concepts that you cover in 8th grade at the latest, but you kind of forget how to solve basic math problems by hand because calculators are much more practical!), and basic rules of grammar, spelling, parts of speech, sentence fluency, and what killed me was SUBJECT-VERB AGREEMENT!! I scored lowest on the English part of the test just for that reason... so I'd suggest really getting a firm understanding on subject-verb agreement because those questions can get pretty confusing and complicated.

    My score breakdown by subject was 98% on reading, 100% on math, 92% on science, and 83% in English (I blame word processors and spell check! haha)

    As for the science section, the study manual didn't help very much for me whatsoever. The study manual covers the basics, but the test asked pretty specific questions from all different science subjects. It covers everything from Anatomy, Biology (especially cellular biology), Chemistry, very basic Biochemistry, basic physics, common sense Earth science, and asks several questions about the scientific process and scientific reasoning in general.

    Basically, I'd brush up on all basic concepts in all these subject, but for me it would have been a waste of time to study any particular concept in depth. If you did well in Anatomy, Chemistry, and Micro and actually paid attention and retained the major concepts, you should be able to figure out the answers using your knowledge from those classes. I personally felt like the science section was kind of one of those tests whether you already know the information or you don't. I took General Biology as well while at ASU which actually helped with several questions regarding natural selection, adaptation, and the specifics of genetics. Be sure to thoroughly understand the ins and outs of DNA and RNA! As for chemistry, definitely make sure you understand chemical bonds and the different types along with everything regarding protons, neutrons, and electrons. As for the Anatomy section, I thought the questions were pretty simple, but then again I just finished BIO 202 a few weeks ago so it was fresh in my head. This is for sure the hardest section to study for though because it's very broad and covers SO much information. There are general questions, but some questions get to be very specific and focused on one very small topic in a very large subject matter. So just try and use what you've learned so far in the prereq's!

    I would for sure take the on line practice tests if you can! They're very similar to the actual test and give you a good feel for the test structure and the types of answers they're looking for. You get immediate feedback after answering each question with an explanation as to why it was right or wrong. It makes it easier to understand the train of thought they want you on when answering comprehension questions. Don't be discouraged if you don't do well on the practice test though, I scored 10% higher on the real test than I did on the practice and I think its just because I was more meticulous and took it more seriously when it became the real deal. Plus, some of the questions on the practice tests may help you answer questions on the real test.

    Basically, just make sure you grasp all the general concepts and focus on concepts you are COMPLETELY unfamiliar with. When taking the test, try not to worry and just focus on doing your best! Take your time and make sure you read each question carefully... some of them purposely trick you. And be very careful not to make stupid math mistakes!! It's really easy to calculate things wrong when you're doing it by hand. So double check your work.

    Hope that helps a little. Sorry that was so long, I just wanted to make sure to be thorough and help as much as I could... You still have some time to study up and review, so I'm sure you'll do fine! If you don't mind me asking... what's your select GPA?
    Last edit by energizerbunny19 on Jan 14, '11
  14. Visit  energizerbunny19 profile page
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    Quote from talenea88
    How competitive has ASU become? I've been going back and forth between ASU and GCU! For ASU, I have a select GPA of 4.0 but havent taken my TEAS test yet! I completed my pre-reqs at a community college. But anyways, I'm just curious if anyone here knows what my chances are of getting into ASUs nursing program! :/ Thank you!
    Hey talenea!

    In regards to your question, ASU has become quite competitive. With a GPA of a 4.0, you have a pretty good shot as long as you do decently on the TEAS. A score in the high 70s or low 80s may be cutting it close, but its hard to say with the additional number of spots they have for the Summer 2011 program. If you score in the mid to high 80s, I'd say you'd probably get in without a problem.

    I'm not sure if you're aware of the changes to the Upper Division Advancement application ASU is making. It goes into effect for the Fall 2011 semester, which is why they opened up so many spots for the Summer program, to accommodate students the changes may seriously affect. Basically, your advancement score will be calculated a little differently... It will be worth 6 points of your advancement score instead of 4. They added a multiplier to your GPA based on the number of credits taken at ASU versus the number of credits taken at other colleges. Students who have completed all 17 of their prereqs at ASU have a multiplier of 1.5, while students who have taken all 17 of their classes at another institution will have a multiplier of 1. (The multiply decreases as the number of classes taken at ASU decreases). So basically a student with a 4.0 who has taken all of their classes at ASU will receive 6 points to wards their advancement score. While a student that also has a 4.0 but took all of their prereqs somewhere other than ASU will only receive 4 points towards their advancement score. In your case, this will severely decrease your chances of getting into the program. Another change they have made is in regards to replacement classes. Currently, you're allowed to replace as many classes as you'd like to improve a B to an A. With this new change, you are only allowed to replace 2 grades.

    So if you'd like to get into ASU's program, you should definitely apply for the summer program as that would be your best shot, especially if you do well on the TEAS. Although its not impossible for you to get into the program in fall, it will just be a whole lot harder.

    If you didn't already know all that, I hope that helps you in making your decision! Both ASU and GCU have excellent nursing programs, so either program is a good choice!

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