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please use this thread to discuss this announcement: premium membership and recent changes to the forums thanks admin note added: after further consideration, it would have been better to... Read More

  1. Visit  RainDreamer profile page
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    Brian and moderators -

    Thank you for those explanations, that helps make things more clear. When I tried posting in the BreakRoom last night and I couldn't I had no idea why, so I agree some warning would have been better, but I do commend you for admitting that was a mistake.

    I truly enjoy this site and I've learned so much in the 2 short months I've been a member here. I know it must take a lot of work. I enjoy all the different topics available, the search feature makes finding things so easy and less time-consuming, and I feel safe in posting here unlike some sites where people fight with each other. I also thank you for the option of a student rate of $15. I was planning on becoming a premium member, but not until after I graduated. But now that the rate is lowered to $15 I will try to get that much together, I know the $9 difference doesn't sound like a lot... but $9 buys over 50 packs of Ramen noodles! lol So I thank you for taking student finances into consideration and giving us a discount.
  2. Visit  Spidey's mom profile page
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    Thanks Brian for the explanation and being humble enough to admit you are human.

    I meant to join for some time now but am a terrible procrastinator. I can see your point about the CE and BR threads if they do take up 1/3 of the bandwidth (not something I'm certain I understand but I'll get Ted to explain it to me :chuckle

    Regarding the games - I really don't play them but I'm sure someone would not like it if the games were removed. You can't please everyone.

    Maybe the timing was off and an announcement would have been better (which you have admitted and rectified) ... but otherwise I think it is perfectly acceptable that you are asking for a small yearly membership fee and that all the nursing areas are still available for free.

    Again, thanks for working so hard to make such a great bulletin board. I've really enjoyed my time here and will continue to do so.

    steph
  3. Visit  CCU NRS profile page
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    i think also one of the problems that some of us as just stupid internet junkies didn't get was that the breakroom was any different than any other board. i mean i usually posted stuff there like my we're off to see the wizard thread because i thought breakroom just meant, like lighter side, i didn't think it was made any different i didn'think it was strictly non nursing issues.

    (side note i really like this thread and would not want to loose it so will it be moved to some other forum so that i as the op can still revive and post to it occassionally?)


    i also thought that the recent adddition of posting nursing jobs and resumes' was another source of income for the site which i thought meant you were doing well.

    i mean what if in general nursing forum everyone started doing something sort of equivalent to the good morning thread like

    today's issues:

    where we all still went to discuss how our days have gone and what we have on our plate. if this took off and became the most visited forum would that then become a premium member forum?

    just trying to figure out what the real issues are.

    as far as the word games if they eat bandwidth then just stop them, i can see how that would take space unecessarily, i think if we had a choice of stopping the christmas story thread, and the accronimity and make up a total lie about the poster above you, we could all see the sense in stopping these because they are just so much mind fluff.

    i think the real reason that most of us come here is to chat with like minded people and vent and get opinions on issues that we really need second opinions on.

    yeah the arcade is fun but not necessary. i like a few of the games but honestly i can find them elsewhere.

    so perhaps if we are truly a community and we are made aware of the issues and what is driving them then we can be more supportive.
    Last edit by CCU NRS on Dec 8, '04
  4. Visit  Spidey's mom profile page
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    We have an arcade???!!

    I had no idea. Probably because I'm not a game person.

    Yeah, I'll vote for getting rid of the Christmas Story thread and all the Acronimity and word game stuff ... .

    steph
  5. Visit  CCU NRS profile page
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    Quote from stevielynn
    We have an arcade???!!

    I had no idea. Probably because I'm not a game person.

    Yeah, I'll vote for getting rid of the Christmas Story thread and all the Acronimity and word game stuff ... .

    steph
    As a premium member you still have access, you should check out seal bounce it is hilarious and a great stress reducer.
  6. Visit  gwenith profile page
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    I know soooo little about bandwidth and bandwidth usage. What little I do know though is that it is not just things like the long word game threads but also pictures and worse is when pictures posted here are linked by some fly-by-nighter to another board somewhere then that starts chewing up bandwidth.

    As I said I am no expert - just know what I have picked up in casual conversations about this issue - neither am I the one though that actually pays the bills - that is Brian and I know he has looked into this before.
  7. Visit  Thunderwolf profile page
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    Brian, I'm sorry about all the "this and that" that this change has caused. I have to admit, I was initially frustrated by this. However, your willingness to postpone all the change until January demonstrated to me a "good heart". In turn, I had to look at my own heart. I really believe in this service. It is educational and supportive to all who join and/or take part. I just want you to know that I just went through Paypal and my emoney should be on my way to you. Sign me up as a "Premium" member. I also agree with someone who asked, what about a "lifetime membership" down the road as another option for some? Thank you.
  8. Visit  Nurse Ratched profile page
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    Quote from CCU NRS
    I mean what if in General nursing forum everyone started doing something sort of equivalent to the good morning thread like

    Today's issues:
    The problem with that is that it's not a general nursing topic. Part of our jobs as mods is to make some sort of effort to keep topics sorted out. Allowing non-nursing topics in the nursing forums would invite more. That can be very frustrating for the many posters who come here just to discuss nursing issues. We've also made a conscious effort to keep the more controversial non-nursing news stories in the current events forum to keep the break room a lighter place.
  9. Visit  chris_at_lucas_RN profile page
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    Quote from gwenith
    I know soooo little about bandwidth and bandwidth usage. What little I do know though is that it is not just things like the long word game threads but also pictures and worse is when pictures posted here are linked by some fly-by-nighter to another board somewhere then that starts chewing up bandwidth.
    Makes sense to me.

    How about a poll? I bet the members would rather have access to the break room and current events forums (fora? forii?) and do without arcade games, word games, being able to post pictures, maybe even emoticons! (We used to just type those puppies out like this: ;^) remember?)

    I'd be very supportive of cutting the items that let marrauders eat up the bandwidth, and maybe making the arcade, etc. available to premium members.... But posting in the breakroom and current events, man, that's basic.

    For many of us, this is a lifeline, a contact with the outside world, a collection of friends who understand us, and whom we understand, like no other.

    The vast majority of other BB's are free, paid for by sponsors. Can't the sponsors kick in enough to keep us afloat?
  10. Visit  CCU NRS profile page
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    Quote from chris_at_lucas_RN
    Makes sense to me.

    How about a poll? I bet the members would rather have access to the break room and current events forums (fora? forii?) and do without arcade games, word games, being able to post pictures, maybe even emoticons! (We used to just type those puppies out like this: ;^) remember?)

    I'd be very supportive of cutting the items that let marrauders eat up the bandwidth, and maybe making the arcade, etc. available to premium members.... But posting in the breakroom and current events, man, that's basic.

    For many of us, this is a lifeline, a contact with the outside world, a collection of friends who understand us, and whom we understand, like no other.

    The vast majority of other BB's are free, paid for by sponsors. Can't the sponsors kick in enough to keep us afloat?
    Ditto here
  11. Visit  CCU NRS profile page
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    Quote from Nurse Ratched
    The problem with that is that it's not a general nursing topic. Part of our jobs as mods is to make some sort of effort to keep topics sorted out. Allowing non-nursing topics in the nursing forums would invite more. That can be very frustrating for the many posters who come here just to discuss nursing issues. We've also made a conscious effort to keep the more controversial non-nursing news stories in the current events forum to keep the break room a lighter place.
    If say in today's issues we were discussing what a bad load we had,

    Man work was just terrible I had a whiner all night that just wanted me in the room etc

    and then next poster came along and said I hear ya the whiners are the worst

    I had a pretty good shift,not too bad a load etc.
    and if someone offers a cyber cup o Joe or some comfort food in the mix what is the harm?
    does this qualify as general nursing?
  12. Visit  Scavenger'sWife profile page
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    I have had a lot of different emotions about this issue. So- for what it's worth:

    I have belonged to allnurses for a few years, but am not much to post a lot. Then I left here (mostly) to belong to another BB. That particular BB was free for about a year. Then the mod did just what Brian has now done. I see a lot of BB's doing this - keeping some areas free, but charging if you want full access. And the locked out areas tend to be those "fun" ones that are not within the original idea of the BB's formation. Therefore, I have no problem with the idea of charging. Karen points out a valid point about the cost being overall very cheap.

    Secondly, the BB I mentioned above was free of "censorship" by the mods. Then what arises is the people are free to flame you unmercifully. I, for one, do not belong to any BB in order to be called on the carpet about my thoughts and contributions. If something I post is wrong, then point it out w/o also calling me ignorant and a waste of good O2! So I also agree with a bit of order w/in the BB. Call it censorship if you like. I do not.

    Third, I want to let Brian know I understand about the cost of running a BB. My DH & I ran one for about ten years in the days before the current BB's. The Boards were dial-in and most of them were not even "live". The Admins had to buy a separate phone number and line for each access to their customers. The Admins downloaded the information from the Usenets (or the Internet later on) and then had to MANUALLY INSERT every topic and posting d/l into the proper areas within their particular BB! (That happened to be my "job" on our BB.) The Members all paid a fee to belong. Our BB charged a scaled fee that gave you either basic access, or a second,third or fourth level access. Now I am talking about the 1980's ---- and we charged $15.00 a year for basic back then!

    The cost of running the BB was just about evenly paid for by our memberships. We NEVER "made money" on this venture. (It was a good tax write-off, however!) We had a satellite dish to use to d/l the usenets and various news and topic files. And we had an enormous amount of hardware to keep running (because back then we had to for example have a separate modem for each phone line to access the BB!). We were accused of and thought to be earning a "ton" of money by this "business". But I think what we really earned in ten years was a lot of computer savvy and knowledge. Now our son is a programmer and that was a direct result of helping build networks with his dad.

    Does anyone remember a BB in the 1980's in Ohio and surrounding states called "The Vault" ? That was us! When the local phone company began offering Internet access, we then sold out our business, because we could not offer "live" access to the 'net and we knew our "death" was around the corner.

    The cost is also in your time and energy --- and that is huge! And worth something also. BTW-we had a "Lifetime" membership to The Vault. And we charged $300.00 for it. And we had several people who bought it.

    I *do* like the idea of setting up a "scholarship" that we who can afford it could donate a few $$ to. Then persons who cannot afford the fee could petition (in private) to Brian to use some of the money to pay their yearly fee.

    Anyhoo ------ The result of this has me deciding to pay the $24. I want to remain a member here and feel it is well worth the money. I will just skip Bath & Bodyworks this month! :chuckle
  13. Visit  Sadie04 profile page
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    Quote from Marie_LPN
    My only arguement would have been the sudden spring-up of the changes, however that was fixed.

    My plan was to become a paid member next month, anyway, since by then i would have the extra money. But i can swing it now.



    And above all, this isn't my own personal site, so i don't feel that i have the right to complain about what i got for free for the past year and a half.. The owner will run it however they choose to and for whatever's the best interest, they are the one that invest the time, thought, and money to getting it started in the first place, and if i didn't like it, i didn't have to stay.

    Not saying that to be mean, just the way i feel
    Well said Marie, I agree. Why should Brian be expected to shoulder the entire cost of running the website when many spend literally hours a day here? He's explained his reasons; it's becoming less affordable. I agree it was a little abrupt, but he's agreed to extend the deadline to January. I'm surprised and disappointed at some of the responses I've read here.
    Thanks for Allnurses, Brian, it's a great site!


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