BSN vs. RN Salary - page 6

by busylizzy 194,974 Views | 67 Comments

Hi! I got a lot of information about RN salaries from another thread. What it seems to be, is that around the Bham area, starting salaries are at about $18/hr. My question is, to any of you that know, or any of you that are... Read More


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    Quote from cpl_dvldog
    Unless I am mistaken Magnet hospitals only hire BSN. I know in the VA health system they will hire ADN, but you cannot progress past Level 1 nurse. I feel it is only a matter of time before a BSN will be required. If not for employment, but must be obtained within a certain timeframe after being hired.

    No, they hire both ASN and BSN
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    An RN with only the "ADN" (which, by the way, is not considered a college degree) would make as much as someone with a BSN only if they hold the same position. However, most BSN's are hired at higher levels than the non-degreed RN's to begin with. With the ADN - you will almost never advance to the same level as someone with a BSN, or better, a Master's, can achieve.

    The abbreviation ADN which stands for Associate Degree Nursing. Degree is in the name. The difference is one is a two year degree and and the other is a four year degree. A non degree nurse generally holds a diploma which is awarded from a hospital if they are a R.N. and a certifacte nurse is a LPN but in respect all have worked hard for whatever type of degree, diploma or certificate awarded. Please no one should put any level of nursing down or think that one level is beneath another level and to answer the question the only difference between a BSN and a ADN is management in the hospital as far as Nurse Management and Administration jobs.
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    magnet status just means basically the facility does not hire LPN's for direct patient care. Most facilities perfer BSN but it is not required. When you start that whole process of not hiring ADN vs BSN and the job description is the same you are now opening the doors for many law suits. Last I have plenty of friends which hold BSN who wished they had only gotten the ADN same level of nursing same level of care for the patient.
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    As an entry level RN in most hospitals, both ADN and BSN, typically start out the same. It is after working a few years is where having the higher degree will pay off. To move up in your career, which I hope everyone wants to do, will require more than an ADN. Of course there are some exceptions to this. I have known some ADN nurses that have advanced after many years on the job. It really is no secret that most hospitals prefer a BSN educated nurse. If you don't believe this you are kidding yourself. Not many HR people are looking for employees that will stay at entry level. They are hiring for the future of the company. As I have stated before the VA Health System will hire both ADN's and BSN's but ADN's will not progress above a Level 1 paygrade. Also a BSN will hire on at the ADN with 1 year pay grade.

    I graduated this week with an ADN and plan to apply to an RN-BSN mobility program as soon as I can. Personally in 10 years I don't want to compete for higher paying jobs with a BSN that has been nursing for 2-3 years.
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    I have a question related to this discussion thread. I hold a bachelor's degree already from a liberal arts college. I am applying for an ADN program. I would prefer to pursue a BSN, but it's just too competitve in Minneapolis for a decent school right now. SO, if I get my ADN--which will cost less, be less competitive for admission and take less time to do than a BSN--will my BA allow me to call myself a BSN "equivalent?" See what I mean? How would I bill myself? Would my BA in theater at least get me a little something somewhere?
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    Quote from megstudent7
    I have a question related to this discussion thread. I hold a bachelor's degree already from a liberal arts college. I am applying for an ADN program. I would prefer to pursue a BSN, but it's just too competitve in Minneapolis for a decent school right now. SO, if I get my ADN--which will cost less, be less competitive for admission and take less time to do than a BSN--will my BA allow me to call myself a BSN "equivalent?" See what I mean? How would I bill myself? Would my BA in theater at least get me a little something somewhere?
    Will having a BA in theater coupled with an ADN be considered a BSN? Nope. There are classes taken in a BSN program that you will not take in an ADN program, such as Pathophysiology of Professional Nursing, Informatics and Research for Nurse Practice, Leadership and Management, plus an elective such as Critical Care nursing. Community and Public Health nursing is a class all in itself in the BSN program. Not to mention the additional core classes that you most likely don't have with your BA degree such as Nutrition, and Ethics in Society. Your diploma and transcripts will say ADN, not BSN.
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    Every nurses I've talked to has been so discouraging about me going for my ADN. I'm currently a working LPN, there is only 1 LPN-BSN program in my state which really sucks considering I'd love to go for my BSN but it would be a 2 hrs commute. But I decided I'm gonna go to my CC and try to get into the LPN-ADN program there because my LPN program is affiliated with the CC. But everybody said I won't find any hospital jobs as an ADN and I should just quit. I don't know if its true or not but it really got me thinking.
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    There are two groups of people that you should never listen to, everybody and they. Going from an LPN to an ADN would never be a bad move. I have not heard of any geographic area where a person with an ADN is not hireable, except as a military nurse.
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    Every nurses I've talked to has been so discouraging about me going for my ADN. I'm currently a working LPN, there is only 1 LPN-BSN program in my state which really sucks considering I'd love to go for my BSN but it would be a 2 hrs commute. But I decided I'm gonna go to my CC and try to get into the LPN-ADN program there because my LPN program is affiliated with the CC. But everybody said I won't find any hospital jobs as an ADN and I should just quit. I don't know if its true or not but it really got me thinking.
    Quite the contrary. Most hospitals still hire ADNs for the time being, I know ours does. They are rumors that they will stop in the near future but as of now they still do. My best advice would be to contact the hospital you are interested in human resources department to validate whether they are or not. Also, there are several online ADN-BSN fast track programs out there, I think at UAB or USA. So I think it would be beneficial for you to get your ADN then shoot for you BSN, especially if you could do it online and not have to commute the 2 hrs.
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    how do you conclude that ADN nurses do not hold a "College Degree"?....WOW


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