Anybody travel to Saudi??

  1. All my DH and i keep hearing is how there is big $$$ to be made over there (like 50K-100K for one year assignments). And to be honest, i don't see ANY other way we are going to pay off all our bills, debt, etc...without some serious money in the future. So i was thinking......maybe we might do it eventually. Of course i dont' know what's going on over there terrorist wise, but there is still people talking about it. Has anybody done this? or know anybody who has done this? Cuz IF we do it, we'll do it TOGETHER (we are both RN's) and we'd take our kids. Then and only then would we do it. I don't know what type of experience we'd need. But it would be worth getting for that kind of bank.
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  3. by   fergus51
    I was also interested in the ME for a while, but haven't gone. A friend has worked in various countries there and said that she would never go back to Saudi Arabia in particular. She said other less fanatic countries like Dubai and the United Arab Emirates were much better both to their staff and to their citizens.
  4. by   SnowymtnRN
    I know that woman aren't looked upon favorably there. My DH is an ex Army Ranger, and told me that pretty much i wouldn't be able to leave the American Compound, or at the very least i'd have to be with him. Are the other countries paying as well?
  5. by   fergus51
    From what I understand they are, but I haven't talked to any recruiters. I have only talked to a few nurses here who have gone.
  6. by   globalRN
    one RN I worked with said that he had never seen so many women with colostomies r/t physical/sexual abuse on a surgical unit. Also told us his personal story about a postpartum woman and husband who went to the NICU to see their son....hubby slapped his wife off her chair because she didn't get off fast enough to offer the chair to the male nurse when he came to discuss their son's progress. Think he could have given up his chair?
  7. by   renerian
    I considered it till I had a friend that traveled there and told me women were treated horrible there. I would be scared to go there.

    renerian
  8. by   funnygirl_rn
    Hi SnowymtnRn. I have a little information regarding Saudi Arabia & United Arab Emirates. I have friends who have worked in both countries via government & as contractors. However, they were not employed in nursing, but I can tell you some interesting tidbits regarding those areas.

    Some of the above posters mentioned that United Arab Emirates was more favorable to work there, which my friends concurred. Women were treated better as opposed to working & living in Saudi.

    Now in Saudi, my friends could dress how they pleased living in the compound. However, when they left the compound, they wore an abaya....and also driven by a male driver. Women cannot drive in Saudi Arabia. In some areas my American & Brit friends (women) did wear long sleeved shirts & pants...providing no skin was visible from neck to ankle; but they said it more of a hassle due to the Saudi religious police. They had to keep their heads covered, as well. So, that is why they wore their abayas...much easier to throw over their shorts & tops! No more hassles!

    Yes, as the other posters stated...its is quite a different atmosphere in Saudi & they did see mistreatment of women. Also, the American televison stations via sattelite that they could watch in their compound, often was edited. For example: some of the American shows viewed the actors/actresses in long-sleeve pants/tops...no skin showing & of course no kissing, passionate love scenes!!

    On a sad note & quite horrific as we know...there were public stonings once a week in the city where they often went to the market. My friends actually witnessed a stoning & amputation of a hand (someone got caught stealing).

    As far as money goes...yep..pretty much tax free. My friends were there approx 16-28 months..depending on the contract they accepted & what type of bonus they received by extending their contract. It did help them get ahead of their debt.

    Also, they made lots of new friends, travelled out of the country for different things to do....and as you know alcohol is forbidden in this country, but, living on the compound there was no problem finding it.

    There are international travel agencies that do hire nurses in these areas, I typed in a search & found a few. Good luck! We were thinking about it as well...as you said...it would certainly help one get out of debt much more quickly!
    Last edit by funnygirl_rn on Dec 19, '02
  9. by   kae rn
    I don't know if I could take my kids there. If it was just my husband and I, I could. Travel alerts to Americans in those areas of the world. A friend of mine who served in the Marines told me that he felt the only people who should be going overseas right now is military. Just seems like I would rather live with some debt and look at other ways to reduce debt. I am not sure what type of a situation you are in, but talk with a financial advisor. Wait awhile before you make a spontaneous decision.
  10. by   funnygirl_rn
    Originally posted by kae rn
    I don't know if I could take my kids there. If it was just my husband and I, I could. Travel alerts to Americans in those areas of the world. A friend of mine who served in the Marines told me that he felt the only people who should be going overseas right now is military. Just seems like I would rather live with some debt and look at other ways to reduce debt. I am not sure what type of a situation you are in, but talk with a financial advisor. Wait awhile before you make a spontaneous decision.
    Hi kaern,

    Yes, there are travel alerts to Americans going to any dangerous areas where there has been recent or past incidents of such acts. Your friend is most likely correct, with everything that has been going on with Iraq, my spouse & I wouldn't take a contract in the ME right now & we have lived in the ME previously. But, as the above poster stated, she was merely giving it some thought...don't think her spouse & her would want to go over there right now.
  11. by   SnowymtnRN
    oh definitely! we are just pondering it for the future. Maybe in a year or so....when our babies are older. Just something to think about. I wish we could hire a financial advisor, but unfortunately our debt is old debt, old cc debt, medical bills and student loans. i doubt anyway can help us other than us just paying it one at a time. We want to clear all our debt before we try to buy a house. Would be nice to have 100K to do it! lol But we'll see....i wouldn't even know how to get licensed to go over there to be honest.
  12. by   Nurse2B16
    Hi, guys

    I dont know if any of you have been to Emirates (Dubai), but it certainly is less strict. I was just there about 6 months ago. I loved it! There are so many Americans working there and they dress as they choose. Ofcoarse I don't think you would feel very comfortable walking around with a mini skirt, but dubai is certainly another world. Very modern, latest fashion, and lots of money to be made if you are an American citizen.
    I am still in Nursing school but wish someday to go live there. Good luck to all of you. Emirates is nothing like Saudi Arabia.
  13. by   SnowymtnRN
    This truly has been a great discussion. Things are so hot in the ME right now, of course we aren't planning on doing anything anytime soon. IF we do it, it'll be in a few years because we just found out i'm pregnant again. lol BUT we would never leave our kids for a year with someone else. We also plan to team up with 2 other couples, 3 of the 4 people are nurses, and the 4th is a school teacher. So what we are thinking of doing is her teaching our children as if in homeschool, and the rest of us working. I don't konw, hopefully the terrorism stuff will be over before long and it'll be a lot safer to TRULY try to accomplish. I feel in my heart, that if me and my family went, we would make some great money, learn some valuable life lessons, and realize how lucky we all truly are. Just my thoughts tho......lol i know this isn't for everyone. Just planning for the future i guess.
  14. by   Azdream'nRN
    I looked into this a few years ago and the pay was around $100,000 a year, tax free for nurses, however, that has all changed. I knew countless people that had gone over there on 3 year working stints, lived in those compounds and saved lots of money and bought houses outright with the cash they had saved....I have met nurses all around, since I work agency, who have done this and they own their homes outright. HOWEVER, they have since lowered the pay rates drastically.
    My brother in law who is an MD just got back from working in Saudi Arabia and was earning $4,000 a month as an Internist and did a 2 year contract with them. He noted that the RNs there, mainly Philippino and Indo/Pak. were trying to migrate to the USA for the higher pay there and possible green card as well, monopolizing on their Saudi experience.
    Another thing, you will NOT be allowed to take your kids TO SAUDI ARABIA. You would have to leave them in the U.S., it is for nurses who don't have dependents as far as I have been told by the agencies as well as those who have been there. If you work in ANY country outside the US, you will be allowed to keep up to $70,000 of it without paying any U.S. income tax, according to our laws.
    Keep us posted and GOOD LUCK. I hope you find a position that you can at least take your children with you!

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