Recent RN or CPN in Montreal, Quebec

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Hi, Everyone!

Some questions for those who recently became an RN or a CPN in Montreal, Quebec.

1) OIIQ now states on their website that regardless of one's studies and work experience, all applicants outside of Quebec must complete at least 30 days of clinical integration training. From your personal experience, is it true? Also, did you feel that with your level of nursing education (Bachelor of Science or "Etudes universitaires de premier cycle completees, Sciences infirmieres" in my case) and your work experience (3 years in Russia, 1 year in USA in my case) you were required to complete more than the bare 30-day minimum training? I, of course, bombarded OIIQ with these questions over the phone, but they're playing deaf and dumb, as usual, and just keep reciting their "formulaires", which I can freely read on their website, without the luxury of the lengthy international phone call!

Basically, what I'd like to know is how long would it take me from the time my application is approved by the OIIQ to the time I complete integration training and become a CPN? I've done some preliminary job interviews, and this is the first question they ask. Again, I have a Bachelor degree in Nursing and 4 years work experience.

2) Do I even need to mention my work experience to the OIIQ? From the recounts I've read, it seems that OIIQ doesn't really look at your work experience and you still have to pass that 30-day integration. But the question is, if I don't submit my work experience for OIIQ's evaluation, is there a risk that even with a Bachelor degree in Nursing I will be required to complete more than those 30 days in a clinical setting? Is there a chance OIIQ will drop some theory training req's on me as well?

Oh, and the reason I don't want to mention my work experience to OIIQ is because it's gonna be very expensive for me. While there's no problem with the American hospital I work at, my former Russian employers are gonna have a field day milking me for money for every piece of documentation they'll be required to fill out, translate and send by international mail. I've already gone through this when I received my US license - paid a hefty sum to each Russian employer just so the OIIQ's applications won't end up in the trash can. They call it "processing expenses", I call it "racketeering". So, does your work experience make any difference in the amount of integration training OIIQ requires you to do?

3) At what point during the application/integration/registration process will you need to have a Canadian work permit? Is it before you can begin you integration training? Or is it after you complete training and can become a CPN? If I understood correctly, one is not paid during the integration training, right? So, is it still considered work for which you need to obtain a work permit? Or can I, as a US citizen, just move to Montreal for the 30-day training period and worry about getting a work permit only after I'm eligible to become a CPN?

4) Was it easy to find work as a CPN? Or, if that were the case, as a trainee? Please, share your experiences and suggestions.

Big thanks to everyone!

Specializes in Medical-Surgical, Obstetric, Pediatric.

wow! good for you! thank you for letting us know your status there. I wish you good luck and good career. Endure!

hi guys! my message wasnt post last time...im new on this forum and upon reading all the threads i've learned a lot... thnks to miasat for giving us a very insights about quebec exam.. Honestly, Im not familiar with quebec nursing program nor im aware of it.. What i'm aware of is quebec skilled worker or quebec provincial nominee program which i've applied. anyways, all our concerns here is about OIIQ exams.. Im also planning to apply for assessment but I still don't know where to begin with..I just want to ask if like for example, u already applied for registration ang they send u confirmation regarding when to take the exam.. Is there any timeframe for that or deadline since im still waiting for my Interview date to get my CSQ or quebec selection certificate.. and another thing is, im concerned bout the forms that to be completed by my previous employers, because i havent completed my contract from my previous employment.. your replies are well appreciated..

Specializes in Medical-Surgical, Obstetric, Pediatric.

Hi genona! Im also planing to do that process; applying for the Quebec skilled worker category. Could you tell me if what did you do first? Have you sent your documents to Hongkong Immigration already?

Specializes in Medical-Surgical, Obstetric, Pediatric.

Hi miasat!

How much did it cost for assessment in oiiq upon submission of your papers? Did the oiiq already invited you to take the French exam? Is there a specific band score to assess your French exam if you qualify to work as RN in Quebec. By the way, congratulations for passing their board exam.

My main concern is the expenses you spent along your way in processing. Please give me accurate details... ^^ thanks a lot!

By the way, before you went there. Did you take french exam here in our country, Phils? Because my agency advise me to take the french exam here as part of the requirements before I could submit all my documents to Hongkong Immigration for assessment. Then, is it true that the expenses that I will spend in French exam here in our country will be refunded once I get there??

Specializes in Medical-Surgical, Obstetric, Pediatric.

Hello sweetpamela!

So your taking student visa first then later process permanent residency. But which do you think is better?

- apply as a student then later for PR?? Have many months will it take you to have PR in Quebec as verbalized by your agency?

OR

- apply PR then once your there; you'll apply in oiiq??

Which strategy would take us in fast process?

Processing for PR is quite a long wait but the good thing is that the status is.. I think, stable.. hmmm...

Could you tell me what your agency advised??

By the way, did you receive your file number already??

Hoping for your reply asap..

Thanks a lot! ;)

hi guys, thanks for reposting my messages here - it has become a bit frustrating repeating information over and over again. through the course of my application for registration in quebec, i have come to rely on allnurses as my sounding board- so i wrote in this thread everything i know, every step of the way. keeps the anxiety level in check. :) if you would go back to the beginning of this thread, you will see that i posted all the procedure up until the exam. even wrote a lengthy description of the oiiq exam.. of which i hope i wont get into trouble for. lol.

now, i have heard of this agency in the philippines marketing the so-called "quebec nursing program," - a term you cannot find in any official govt website, because it's only a term coined by the agency for marketing purposes. this cannot be confused with the other legit immigration programs of canada. I do not know this agency so i cannot discredit their claims, that of helping international nurses gain entry into canada. Up to the present moment, I have not confirmed anybody who has successfully arrived in quebec via the process they describe. Anyhow, immigration discussions are not allowed in this thread, and we really don't want to be blocked. :)

@ewol - the short version of getting registered in quebec - you get application packet from oiiq, you submit all the documents, they tell you what you have to do (training or course), then if you pass, they tell you to take the exam. They tell you when - if you don't take it the time that they tell you to, it's considered one fail (unless you have a very good reason why you missed the exam). No, I did not take the french course in the Philippines, I took a few courses in Montreal, never took the required French exam. After I passed the OIIQ exam, I was given a temporary license, renewable 3 times until I pass the french language test. But since the oiiq exam is equivalent to the crne (canada board exam), I applied for a job all over the country - and am now based in Winnipeg. I am a fully registered nurse in Manitoba now, and I love this city as well as I did (and still do) Montreal. :)

As for the expenses, I reiterate my previous statement from previous posts. I came here already with a permanent resident visa, family-sponsored. I have no idea about immigration procedures - so I really am not in a position to give you advice. Ballpark figure, since I forgot how much exactly i paid - oiiq application fee of $500, exam fee of $500, then once i passed, registration fee of another $500 ..and $50 for the OIIQ reviewer.

Also, if you intend to invest, you can actually read up on the entire process from the OIIQ website.. it may look intimidating, but they do have english forms there.. you can also call oiiq directly for questions, they're very accommodating.

Best of luck!

Specializes in Medical-Surgical, Obstetric, Pediatric.

To miasat:

Thanks a lot! Ahhm.. I could have a lesser pay on my application. Actually, I'm applying for the QSW category. That's why I'm asking how much is the expenses if I personally apply in oiiq. But as what was said from our co-nurse here in this thread, your not actually going to pay $500 for the exam if you passed, right? about $300 will be returned, right? Registration fee is quite expensive.. By the way, thank you so much for the information. Wow! I'm happy for your status right now. :)

Specializes in Medical-Surgical, Obstetric, Pediatric.

@ Miasat:

So, you are not going to take the French exam anymore?? Because your are fully registered nurse in Manitoba already and that place use English language about 74%.

Good luck! :)

Specializes in Oncology, post surgical.

Hi miasat! Just want to ask if you also asked for an evaluation of your credentials and comply to other requirements, like IELTS, of the College of Nurses of Manitoba. Thanks in advance.

Specializes in Medical-Surgical, Obstetric, Pediatric.

Good day Miasat!

ahmm.. another thing, did you take IELTS before you go there? Since, finding a nurse position job there will take time, did you have some part-time jobs or are there many part-time jobs to work there? I don't have any relatives there, so I will need a job to sustain my daily needs.

Thanks! More power!

Specializes in renal area.

hi,

i'm new here. i just wanna ask. i'm also a Filipino. i'm currently studying french language and i'm done sending my requirements for quebec and got my decision letter already. the agency which helped me, told me to search for schools or hospitals where i would train there in quebec but right now, most bilingual hospitals are full already, as well as for the next sched, so only option is to apply training to hospitals/ schools which offers pure french but then i should be in an intermediate level in speaking french since we will be interviewed via skype. my question is, do you know how we can get to an intermediate level in speaking french? or do you know of certain hospitals/ schools who use both english and french as medium of instruction? is it true that we can't

file our application for embassy if no school/ hospital in montreal will accept us? or can we just file for embassy and fly there in montreal and personally give our applications to the said hospitals?

thanks ;)

Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

Take this for what it's worth... which isn't much, because it's just my opinion... I'd have to be absolutely out of options before I'd think about working in Quebec. :banghead: A lot of people there are very intolerant of those whose French isn't flawless. We Canadians often joke that we need a passport to cross the border from Ontario into Quebec because their laws and attitudes are so different from the rest of Canada. The Quebec government behaves as if Quebec is indeed a separate country. One of my children lives in Montreal and has a job in health care, but is also fluently bilingual, having been educated in French for the first 9 years of schooling. That comes in handy when I visit and we're in a restaurant - "Please order me the chicken!" Intermediate level French would be the equivalent of having taken French classes at the high school level for 3 years.

You need to ask those questions of Quebec immigration (since they're a completely separate country after all! :icon_roll) because they're going to be the ones to decide what you can and can't do. But I wouldn't expect them to be all that helpful.

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