Quickest Way for Getting Things Done and Licensed in US - page 46

As most of you know, I have been recommending initial licensure in NY for quite some time. And for those of you that did not heed the warning, you now know why. New York is three easy... Read More

  1. by   lawrence01
    Quote from lawrence01
    You yourself said that they only require the CES; it is diff. from the certification (includes the exam). The CES is just evaluation of your full transcript; it's basically the same process as their CGFNS certification minus the exams.
    That's why it also costs less; $225 I think vs. $300 for the certification program.

    You should check CGFN's website and see for yourself the difference bet. the two.

    I just saw the website again. Yes, it did say that a CGFNS certification is needed.

    I don't think this is the same form (and requirements) I saw about 1/2 a yr ago.

    I would have sworn that the CES was the requirement back then. You'll also notice that this current form is dated on 2000. They may have reverted back to the CGFNS certification as a req't.
  2. by   augigi
    Quote from lawrence01
    You yourself said that they only require the CES; it is diff. from the certification (includes the exam). The CES is just evaluation of your full transcript; it's basically the same process as their CGFNS certification minus the exams.
    That's why it also costs less; $225 I think vs. $300 for the certification program.

    You should check CGFN's website and see for yourself the difference bet. the two.
    Lawrence, I said that PA BON require CES and Validation of Registration for ENDORSING from another state for foreign-educated nurses (so won't save any time going via New York).

    However, since Suzanne advised to go direct to PA-BON for initial licensure, this means they will require CGFNS Certification (incl. EXAM) as well as NCLEX-RN, as I posted.

    I am quite aware of the difference, thanks - I have actually done quite a lot of research, including all the relevant websites. I don't think you needed to post quite so patronisingly.
  3. by   lawrence01
    Quote from augigi


    Lawrence, I said that PA BON require CES and Validation of Registration for ENDORSING from another state for foreign-educated nurses (so won't save any time going via New York).

    However, since Suzanne advised to go direct to PA-BON for initial licensure, this means they will require CGFNS Certification (incl. EXAM) as well as NCLEX-RN, as I posted.

    I am quite aware of the difference, thanks - I have actually done quite a lot of research, including all the relevant websites. I don't think you needed to post quite so patronisingly.
    Sorry, you felt that way. We are just trying to help and say the way it is and nothing else. This is a forum and any one can say their opinion or help out.
  4. by   pika
    1. CVS for New York State
    2. Form 1 for initial licensure in New York State
    3. Visa Screen application.

    Those three steps are for NY, right? Which one comes first? Can it be applied at the same time?
  5. by   suzanne4
    You can do all three at the same time, if you can only afford to do one at a time, the most important is the CVS, as nothing can progress without that.
  6. by   pika
    Thanks for the quick reply Suzanne, here's another question, I know that CVS is done by cgfns alone, you only pay. Do you have any idea if the data that they are asking in CVS is the same as those data needed in CES(transcripts & license verification)?
    Last edit by pika on Feb 10, '06
  7. by   danigirl58
    Suzanne,
    I have some questions about obtaining a US state license. Currently I am just finishing up my BsN in Canada (will have it completed in March). I was going to apply through MN BON to get licensed but after reading many posts I am not sure if i should go that route or through NY. If I go through NY will it be quicker for me ..... read in another post on here that MN was fast for Canadians. What is the advantage of me going through NY rather then MN.
    When i apply for the license in either state I will have to put that I do not currently have an RN license but will have a grad nurse license .. as i will be taking the CRN exam in June... will I have to put down that I am a grad nurse??
    My last question is the BsN program that I am in is a Joint program. what i mean by this is that the first 3 years of my program are done through a College (we have some university instructors come teach us) however all of our humanities and our Th and final year is through the university. my transcripts and degree will both come from the univercity...... so should i put down on the application that i attended both schools or just the one where my degree and transcripts come from.
    Thanks
  8. by   danigirl58
    Suzanne
    Sorry I have one more question that I am a bit foggy on. If I chose to go through the NY BON and do the CVS do i still have to apply for the visa screen or does going through NY just help out the process because they get all the info previously??
  9. by   karin78
    Hi Suzanne, I got great news for a lot of the nurses who are always around the forum, look at the web of ncsbn. There are new international centers to take nclex. sorry, but im so excited!!:roll

    Now I can take nclex in Germany, Mexico and Canada, and so on, which diminishes my obtaining visa difficulties, so Im going to take NCLEX, but I have to register to a board which one you recommend as the quickest to give me my ATT, and also which are the boards that do not require a SSN (cause Im outside US)

    And after passing the NCLEX (TOEFL is done) what should I do, Does the state I applied give me a License and with that Can I go to the US embassy to ask for my visa?

    I am not sure but I think that passing NCLEX is by far quickest than getting visascreen and...you know. Or Am I misunderstanding you?

    Thank u for your help and advice

    kisses,

    Karin78 :spin:
  10. by   karin78
    sorry, but I forgot...

    I have been reading the requirements of different boards of nurses, and found that the CVS-NY is different from the CES and that I have to re-send (that is what I understand in cgfns web page) all my education degrees and credentials from my nursing school, which I think willl take long time

    Florida BON looks like easy, thy will make it in short time, but not sure about the SSN that is why I need your advice about other states, u know..me like everybody wants it the quickest

    thanks
  11. by   starbin
    Quote from karin78
    sorry, but i forgot...

    i have been reading the requirements of different boards of nurses, and found that the cvs-ny is different from the ces and that i have to re-send (that is what i understand in cgfns web page) all my education degrees and credentials from my nursing school, which i think willl take long time

    florida bon looks like easy, thy will make it in short time, but not sure about the ssn that is why i need your advice about other states, u know..me like everybody wants it the quickest

    thanks
    florida will not give you a license without a social security number.
    cvs-ny is different from ces because for ces the applicant sends the request for documents(in fact, the certificate issuing authorities, nursing school and licensing body, send the document to cgfns). but for cvs cgfns itself sends the request to schools or nursing licensing authority in your country of education.
    if you already have a ces apply in those states which only require ces. the same documents can be used for visa screen also, however, you have to pay the full fee. states like vermont, ca, new mexico do their own credential evaluation. some other states require cgfns for initial licensure. rest accept ces from cgfns.
  12. by   starbin
    Quote from karin78
    hi suzanne, i got great news for a lot of the nurses who are always around the forum, look at the web of ncsbn. there are new international centers to take nclex. sorry, but im so excited!!:roll

    now i can take nclex in germany, mexico and canada, and so on, which diminishes my obtaining visa difficulties, so im going to take nclex, but i have to register to a board which one you recommend as the quickest to give me my att, and also which are the boards that do not require a ssn (cause im outside us)

    and after passing the nclex (toefl is done) what should i do, does the state i applied give me a license and with that can i go to the us embassy to ask for my visa?

    i am not sure but i think that passing nclex is by far quickest than getting visascreen and...you know. or am i misunderstanding you?

    thank u for your help and advice

    kisses,

    karin78 :spin:
    yes, it is a great news for all nurses outside usa who want to take nclex. india is also included.
    about the quickest bon to process your application- first, decide on which state you plan to work. each state has different requirements. some states like, ny, vermont, new mexico issue you a license without cgfns certificate or social security number. ny requires a special credential verification service(provided by cgfns) which takes up to 6 months. other two states do their own credential evaluation and take about 3-4 months in average.
    visa screen(also a service of cgfns) is a totally different thing. it is required for processing your immigrant visa. you will be issued visa screen once you meet the requirements(credentials evaluation, passing of either nclex-rn or cgfns and series of english exams). it doesn't take much time for cgfns to issue your vs certificate after they receive all your documents(up to 4 weeks maximum). vsc is the fastest of all services cgfns provides.
    you do not go to the embassy and ask for visa(immigrant visa). once you pass the nclex-rn or cgfns exam, you can look for an employer. your employer has to file a petition for your visa. the most popular english exams are toefl(both twe and tse or the toefl ibt), and ielts. if you have done only toefl(without tse) you have to do tse(test of speaking english) also.
  13. by   starbin
    Quote from danigirl58
    suzanne
    sorry i have one more question that i am a bit foggy on. if i chose to go through the ny bon and do the cvs do i still have to apply for the visa screen or does going through ny just help out the process because they get all the info previously??
    all forign born nurses require visa screen certificate to process their employment based immigrant visa.
    if you apply for cvs-ny you will not be exempt from visa screen certificate requirement but the same documents obtained by cgfns for the cvs can be used for visa scren certificate as well. you do not have to re send the documents for visa screen. you can just mail the paper application or apply online and pay the fee.

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