Quickest Way for Getting Things Done and Licensed in US - page 39

As most of you know, I have been recommending initial licensure in NY for quite some time. And for those of you that did not heed the warning, you now know why. New York is three easy... Read More

  1. by   lordfrazer
    Thanks Suzanne, you're a jewel. How do you find time to answer all these questions?! Andrew
  2. by   starbin
    Quote from lordfrazer
    thanks suzanne, you're a jewel. how do you find time to answer all these questions?! andrew
    i was also having the same question. i know suzanne is a staff of allnurses.com. but how does she manage to do all this. she knows everything from nclex, cgfns , ielts exams to the rules and requirements of each bon. immigration issues to foreign nursing practices (to name few). i was asking myself..when does she sleep, do shopping and cook? she is always there- night or day,,,,weekend or holiday....
    you are great ,,,,,angel,,,,,:angel2:
  3. by   speedtec
    Thank you so much, Suzanne, for that very informative reply. You're indeed a great help to us who want to work as RNs in the US soon, and to those who are already RNs in the US.
    Here's a follow-up question. (if you don't mind)
    I took the CGFNS last November (2005) but didn't quite make it, do you think I should re-take the exam or just focus on the NCLEX?
    do i still need to process a visa screen even if i'm already in the US (on an h4 visa)? or could i just apply for an adjustment of status once i pass the NCLEX (assuming I do pass the exam). can i apply for AOS by myself even without an employer? what are the requirements?
    finally, what do the abbreviations CES and EAD stand for? (pardon my ignorance..hehe)
    thanks again, suzanne (like what others have said about you, I really don't know how you're able to answer all these questions, including those in other threads, considering your hectic schedule...you're certainly a great help to us)
  4. by   suzanne4
    Quote from starbin
    i was also having the same question. i know suzanne is a staff of allnurses.com. but how does she manage to do all this. she knows everything from nclex, cgfns , ielts exams to the rules and requirements of each bon. immigration issues to foreign nursing practices (to name few). i was asking myself..when does she sleep, do shopping and cook? she is always there- night or day,,,,weekend or holiday....
    you are great ,,,,,angel,,,,,:angel2:
    i visit my computer first thing every morning and when i get home at night.
    you can see how many things that i try to respond to, but it makes it harder when nurses post here, and the same thing to my pm box, as well as my e-mail address. please, please post only in one place and i will get to it. it delays me from responding to others.... i check each of the three places on a daily basis, but if i am working all day, i am not on the computer then, my patients come first.
    Last edit by suzanne4 on Jan 24, '06
  5. by   suzanne4
    Quote from rochoa888
    Thank you so much, Suzanne, for that very informative reply. You're indeed a great help to us who want to work as RNs in the US soon, and to those who are already RNs in the US.
    Here's a follow-up question. (if you don't mind)
    I took the CGFNS last November (2005) but didn't quite make it, do you think I should re-take the exam or just focus on the NCLEX?
    do i still need to process a visa screen even if i'm already in the US (on an h4 visa)? or could i just apply for an adjustment of status once i pass the NCLEX (assuming I do pass the exam). can i apply for AOS by myself even without an employer? what are the requirements?
    finally, what do the abbreviations CES and EAD stand for? (pardon my ignorance..hehe)
    thanks again, suzanne (like what others have said about you, I really don't know how you're able to answer all these questions, including those in other threads, considering your hectic schedule...you're certainly a great help to us)
    First, the AOS, or Adjustment of Status, must be filed by an employer, since it is for an employer based visa. I woudl forget about the CGFNS exam, and just concentrate on the NCLEX, unless you plan to work in a state that doesn't permit you to work or endorse there without it. And there are very few of those.
    CES is the Credentials Evaluation done by CGFNS. It has replaced the exam for most states.
    EAD stands for Employee Authorization Document, it is what permits you to work as well as get the SSN#, while everything else is being processed. It is only available to those that are already in the US. It is actually a card that you will receive in the mail, just like a driver's license, etc.

    Even though you are in the US currently, you are still going to be applying for the green card, and the Visa Screen Certificate is required for that. Even if you did your training in the US. The only thing that must be completed to be petitioned is passing the NCLEX exam.
  6. by   speedtec
    Thanks again, Suzanne. Everything's starting to get clearer now.
    With regard to the Visa Screen, my wife had already completed her application for it before leaving the Philippines, do I still need to complete one for myself? (She's planning to apply for a green card after one year of service with her hospital employer.)
    What are needed for the EAD so that I may apply?
    by the way, what type of visas are normally given to nurses sponsored by hospitals? Is it also the H1b (working visa) like the one granted to my wife?
    I truly appreciate your insightful answers, pardon me for being so inquisitive. I just want to know the right path to take and not make the same mistake of not knowing the better way.
    If I had come across this amazing site earlier and read your previous posts, I would have been able to apply for NCLEx exam in NY (sigh!) instead of CA, which takes a lot longer.
    I'll be reading your other posts in other threads so I may pick up valuable information. More power to you and the other moderators of this site!!!
  7. by   whoopee
    Quote from whoopee
    Hi Suzanne,

    I would like to apply to Vermont despite having sent my application to CA BON & my check's been cashed. I don't mind canceling my application & foregoing my fees at CA if it saves me a bunch of time. Will I be penalized for doing that?

    Hi Suzanne
    I think my above question got missed coz it was accidentally typed in tiny font. My application to Vermont will be sent tomorrow so if this is going to turn around & bite me, pleeeeeeease stop me.

    Thank you
  8. by   suzanne4
    The issue usually comes up if you have gotten approval from one state, then register with Pearson-Vue, then decide on another state, and when Pearson-Vue has two accounts for you, then havoc can erupt.

    You should be just fine.
  9. by   whoopee
    Quote from suzanne4
    The issue usually comes up if you have gotten approval from one state, then register with Pearson-Vue, then decide on another state, and when Pearson-Vue has two accounts for you, then havoc can erupt.

    You should be just fine.

    WhooooooHooooooo!!
    Thank you so much Suzanne. for you.

    whoopee
  10. by   Ilia
    Suzanne,

    I just got a response from the CT Department of Public Health. They basically say the same thing: CGFNS is required. In my intitial inquiry I did tell her that in NY CGFNS Certification is not required and that the NYS Board of Education has approved the educational credentials before allowing her to pass the NCLEX and that we were willing to go through CGFNS credential verification (in the hope of avoiding the exam). But her response was pretty much quoting the instructions to the application by endorsement:

    This is in response to your e-mail regarding nurse licensure in
    Connecticut. The documentation requirements for a foreign trained nurse are indicated on page 5 of the application under number 2. You would need an application, verification of your CGFNS certification and license verifications submitted from any state in which you have ever held a license as a nurse. I hope this information is helpful.

    Sincerely,

    Deborah M. Brown
    Health Program Assistant I
    Office of Practitioner Licensing and Certification

    We are pretty much desperate now. Another lengthy, costly exam - after already going through this once in NY and getting the license - and they complain about the shortage of nurses..
  11. by   suzanne4
    Depending on where you live in CT, you may find it easier to just commute to NY to work, and either travel back each night, or just stay there, if you are working twelves, you are going to be very tired at the end of your shifts anyhow. And NY pays more....
  12. by   Ilia
    Thank you for your mail Suzanne, and for the response. Unfortunately, we live in Hartford, CT, so we are 1.45 hours away from the border - commute is out of the question.

    I guess we shouldn't have gone through NY to begin with and should have started right in Connecticut - because we'll end up going through this hell twice. No one here accepts NY license and getting the CT one seems like impossible - so we are stuck. What a waste of time, efforts and resources.

    I appreciate your time Suzanne - just let people know that CT is an exception and CGFNS is required even for endorsement - and encourage them to go directly through CT, not NY.

    Ilia
  13. by   suzanne4
    I have only had one other person contact me wishing to go to CT to work. And they had already passed the CGFNS exam. Most wish to work in NY or NJ.

    Your wife can still work in NY and just stay there the two nights, and come home after the third. Many do it here all of the time, even if she works near your home, she is going to be getting home after dinner time and is just going to want to go to sleep.

    You are also in the US already, most are out of the US when they are deciding where they wish to work. The issue thatmost have here is having a lciense that they can endorse to another state later on, without major headaches. Most do not offer a hard license if they do not have a SSN#. And most wish to avoid the CGFNS exam.

    Sorry. But you already gone the route of NY. Had you checked with CT before?

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