More unemployment news - page 5

They have revised the US unemployment numbers, it is much higher than first thought. Before you post, that there are still jobs and you hope retrogression is over. Please think. These are my... Read More

  1. by   Nurse!Nurse!Hello?
    Quote from peepo RN
    Im sure you'l be getting your support...., but what if the support you were hoping for came from another country? *wine cheers
    Well, then, it wouldn't actually be the support we were hoping for, now would it? :chuckle
    The main priority for the US is putting Americans back to work, plain and simple.
    Perhaps other countries should also try to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" as well....
    Last edit by Nurse!Nurse!Hello? on Jan 7, '09
  2. by   traumaRUs
    At the moment, our US economy is not expected to rally for several years. There are many, many unemployed Americans who would like the retraining offered.
  3. by   peepo RN
    Quote from Nurse!Nurse!Hello?
    Well, then, it wouldn't actually be the support we were hoping for, now would it? :chuckle
    The main priority for the US is putting Americans back to work, plain and simple.
    Perhaps other countries should also try to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" as well....
    Im pretty sure it makes your blood boil seeing an immigrant nurse in your station I wouldnt wanna be that nurse sitting next to you. joke only:chuckle
  4. by   nevertooold
    I can't find a job, I'm a new LPN grad and have applied to over 20 hospitals and nursing homes. Most of them have told me they are not hiring right now. The ones that are want LPN's with at least 1-2 yrs. experience. If no one will hire me how do I get the exp.? I have 15 years exp. in hospitals & nrsg. homes as a tech though. Happy New Year everyone!
  5. by   Ginger's Mom
    Quote from redranger
    We have it made in the USA, we are just in a little slump right now.

    We have became spoiled, what happen to the "Pull Up the Boot Strap" attitude that America was famous for.

    Try living in another country like Philippines and looking for a job.

    If your not young, or attractive then you have problems.

    I see ads for work they say: Must be female, between age 21 to 25, Must be 5'2" or taller, Fair Complexion, posses college degree, pleasing personality, Must include picture with resume.

    There is so much opportunity to in USA to have a career and make great money, and if one of your adventure fails you can always start over.
    That is horrible to live in a country where people are treated like that, it is awful.I think most people will agree with you. Every day I am reminded of all of the men and women who fought in the USA so I don't have to live like that. Americans have paid a price to live like this. There are many countries like the Philippines, I don't what to hijack this thread, but if you want to discuss the merits of immigration and which country has worse living conditions for IEN there is a political forum here.

    I also feel if we are going to import nurses, ALL qualified nurses should be recruited, India, England, Ireland, China, etc should all have the same opportunity. Should nurses from the UK not be allowed to come to the USA since their country's standard of living is superior? Isn't that discrimination when you only immigrate one group and not another? If the US needs to import IEN open the doors to all! The IEN should be represent the countries the general immigration population so when immigrants need health care their will be nurses who can educate other nurses about the patient's culture.


    This issue in this thread is unemployment and some feel this an opportunity for IEN to find work. What I am hearing from our new President is that he is trying to find every American a job and will prompt programs since as tax incentives and worker training programs. I feel this is wonderful for US citizens who can fill the void and become nurses.
  6. by   Nurse!Nurse!Hello?
    Quote from peepo RN
    Im pretty sure it makes your blood boil seeing an immigrant nurse in your station I wouldnt wanna be that nurse sitting next to you. joke only:chuckle
    As I have said before, I have worked with foreign nurses for many years, primarily from the Philippines. The nurses who trained years ago are competent nurses and I love working with them. The more recent grads...not so much. Poorly trained, only in it for the money...it shows in their attitude.
    And lucky for you, you won't have to worry about being that nurse sitting next to me---thank God for the retrogression, right?!! joke only :chuckle
  7. by   Nurse!Nurse!Hello?
    Quote from Alexk49
    I also feel if we are going to import nurses, ALL qualified nurses should be recruited, India, England, Ireland, China, etc should all have the same opportunity. Should nurses from the UK not be allowed to come to the USA since their country's standard of living is superior? Isn't that discrimination when you only immigrate one group and not another? If the US needs to import IEN open the doors to all!
    Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the doors are already open to all. People from Ireland, England, and other countries with a decent standard of living aren't necessarily all wanting to move to the US. It's mainly people from poor, third world countries who are trying to squeeze too many people through the door all at once. In terms of recruiting, though, you are right. Most foreign nurses are recruited from poor, third world countries that mass- produce nurses for export.

    I think I have only worked with one Irish nurse in my entire nursing career. She was a sweet person and a good nurse. I could tell she really loved nursing, and wasn't just in it for the money. I'd like to work with nurses from a lot of different countries, but I don't think that's going to happen.
  8. by   NurseCubanitaRN2b
    I think the problem also lies in the surplus of nurses in these 3rd world country...The economy is bad here in the US and one is still trying to find employment "here"....Some are smart and are seeking employment elsewhere in the world while others are twiddling their thumbs hoping for that slight chance that they will make it here....But with the economy the way it is it's not going to happen....gotta have a plan B...The pre-nursing students who can't get into the RN program are now opting for the LVN program and then bridge over to the RN once finished....Those pre-nursing students are going for plan B while plan A in a hault....Those are the smart ones....the ones who are stubborn and twiddling their thumbs hoping to make it into the RN program are the ones who are going to be left behind because they didn't have a plan B....I've spoken to many who are going to wait and try for the RN program after 3 years of waiting....They could have been entering the bridge program by now.....Not so smart.....So the way the economy the way it is, it's smart to have a plan B until you can revert back to plan A...That's with getting into nursing school and also trying to enter the US...
  9. by   Ginger's Mom
    Quote from Nurse!Nurse!Hello?
    Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the doors are already open to all. People from Ireland, England, and other countries with a decent standard of living aren't necessarily all wanting to move to the US. It's mainly people from poor, third world countries who are trying to squeeze too many people through the door all at once. In terms of recruiting, though, you are right. Most foreign nurses are recruited from poor, third world countries that mass- produce nurses for export.

    I think I have only worked with one Irish nurse in my entire nursing career. She was a sweet person and a good nurse. I could tell she really loved nursing, and wasn't just in it for the money. I'd like to work with nurses from a lot of different countries, but I don't think that's going to happen.

    Residents of the UK need apply for a Green Card. Our own SliverDragon could not get a visa to the US. People immigrate for other reasons then money.

    The nurses I have worked from the UK seem to bring a high standard of nursing to the bedside and in my experience are very patient focused.
  10. by   ghillbert
    Quote from Alexk49
    Residents of the UK need apply for a Green Card.
    Depends on the nurse, the experience they have, and the employer. UK residents are not barred from applying for work visas, provided they meet the criteria. I believe SilverDragon got caught in immigrant visa retrogression.
  11. by   Silverdragon102
    Yes I got caught up with retrogression and before that my first employer backed out just after approval resulting in having to start all over again finding a employer etc, initially started the process in 2003. Now in Canada and loving it. There are people from all over the world that want to move to the US and all for their own reasons for some it is better quality of lie, better finances (well hopefully) and for others try something different (that was me, spent over 15 years in the UK nursing and wanted to experience something different
  12. by   Ginger's Mom
    Silverdragon sounds like Canada is lovely. Funny how things can work out for the best. Are you planning on working as a nurse in Canada?

    Gilbert, I think what you are saying is that if you have special qualifications you can bypass retrogression? Also are you saying the CGFNS says your training is equal to a diploma while a university acknowledges your master's degree. That is crazy.
  13. by   Silverdragon102
    Am planning on nursing here but waiting for the nursing college to get things sorted is taking ages, reminds me must ring them to see what is happening

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