Interesting article about "diploma mills"

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http://www.upiasia.com/Human_Rights/2008/02/27/university_degrees_for_sale/2995/

This might cause people to get defensive, but I'm curious about the credibility of this site. Does anybody know?

Nurse impostera are very different then a diploma mill. There were no so called diploma mills involved. I think you are confusing issues here.

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....and they still try harder and harder to ignore the original post and refuse to believe that there are diploma mills out in the streets of Manilla...DENIAL DENIAL DENIAL...

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I don't think people are in denial but rather trying to defend themselves against a peceived slur on their professionalism. I have read the article and I really don't think it is referring to nursing diplomas, the only reference to nurses is that it states Filli nurses were upset about a remark in a TV programme. The journalist doesn't say he was a nurse and so I can assume he didn't actually receive a fake nursing diploma, even if he did, it isn't proof that it was able to get him through the rigorous checks to allow him to sit NCLEX and be issued with a license to practice in the US.

The state BON and CGFNS want validation of nurse training / licensure completed and sent directly from the graduating university and the countrys professional body, not a diploma sent from the applicant as proof. They have a lot of experience of reviewing these docs and as the reporter stated himself he was able to see immediatly the difference betweenthe original and the fake.

Your original question raised was "This might cause people to get defensive, but I'm curious about the credibility of this site. Does anybody know?" It seems that the site is credible and so the question has been answered. There are Filli nurses who have said that they are aware of these diploma mills, but the fact that it has been posted in the International nurses forum fuels that idea that it is being inferred that this relates directly to Filli nurses. I can see how a fake diploma may give you an advantage when applying for many jobs but with the stringent checks in place for validating nursing qualifications I don't see how they can get away with it as a way being issued with a nurse license in the US.

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I don't think people are in denial but rather trying to defend themselves against a peceived slur on their professionalism. I have read the article and I really don't think it is referring to nursing diplomas, the only reference to nurses is that it states Filli nurses were upset about a remark in a TV programme.

:wink2: You are correct, the post is about Diploma Mills, not Fake Nursing degrees. It somehow morphed into when this poster incorrectly assumed it was about Philippines Nurses and made this post as the No. 3 post.

Posted by "MedSurg32NR"

"The native nurses need to speak out, these diploma mills decrease the value of their education. They need to hold their government's feet to the fire to verify the colleges. No one why they need help filling out the NCLEX application"

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I don't think people are in denial but rather trying to defend themselves against a peceived slur on their professionalism. I have read the article and I really don't think it is referring to nursing diplomas, the only reference to nurses is that it states Filli nurses were upset about a remark in a TV programme. The journalist doesn't say he was a nurse and so I can assume he didn't actually receive a fake nursing diploma, even if he did, it isn't proof that it was able to get him through the rigorous checks to allow him to sit NCLEX and be issued with a license to practice in the US.

The state BON and CGFNS want validation of nurse training / licensure completed and sent directly from the graduating university and the countrys professional body, not a diploma sent from the applicant as proof. They have a lot of experience of reviewing these docs and as the reporter stated himself he was able to see immediatly the difference betweenthe original and the fake.

Your original question raised was "This might cause people to get defensive, but I'm curious about the credibility of this site. Does anybody know?" It seems that the site is credible and so the question has been answered. There are Filli nurses who have said that they are aware of these diploma mills, but the fact that it has been posted in the International nurses forum fuels that idea that it is being inferred that this relates directly to Filli nurses. I can see how a fake diploma may give you an advantage when applying for many jobs but with the stringent checks in place for validating nursing qualifications I don't see how they can get away with it as a way being issued with a nurse license in the US.

There's the voice of reason. There are always going to be people involved in counterfeit operations in third world countries and it can range from fake currency to fake academic degrees. Even in parts of the US, these operations also exist. The question is, since this is posted in a nursing website, can an individual misrepresent himself as a nurse by purchasing an academic degree this way and pass all the requirements for licensure and immigration to the US? With the stringent requirements in place from both the immigration service and the individual BON's, that would be such a hard act to pull off. The person would have to be really smart to crack the NCLEX-RN without any nursing education whatsoever and pass documentation reviewers from multiple agencies that you think and hope are able to tell what's fake and what's real. As I've said before, I've not known of any confirmed cases of foreign nurses being able to do this and whatever case was mentioned by another poster sounded more like a suspicion and not a confirmed case.

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Here is Spokane Washington Based Diploma Mill, they sold 10,000 fake degrees and made over $7 millions US Dollars

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/data/diploma-mill/

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We all know there are fake diploma mills in the USA. But as I have mentioned in previous posts HR knows how to check the accreditation of the college.

Yes, some been in high level positions, but they were caught. The other post you had with the nurses, most were caught quickly and swiftly.

The issue of the original post was that in Manila, they were being sold in the street and no one goes to jail, unlike the US where people go to Jail. There is a big difference. I have never seen fake diplomas sold openly in a major city.

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We all know there are fake diploma mills in the USA. But as I have mentioned in previous posts HR knows how to check the accreditation of the college.

Yes, some been in high level positions, but they were caught. The other post you had with the nurses, most were caught quickly and swiftly.

The issue of the original post was that in Manila, they were being sold in the street and no one goes to jail, unlike the US where people go to Jail. There is a big difference. I have never seen fake diplomas sold openly in a major city.

I have, Go to some Flea Markets and you can find them.

In the USA Dipoloma Mills can be set up in another country and cater to the USA, and US laws can't touch them. Thus again due to the rise of the internet.

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Another Interesting Articles on Diploma Mills in the USA

http://www.degree.net/html/diploma_mills.html

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Think enough has been said on this subject for the moment. Closing for a review

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