Immigration News and Updates - page 27

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  1. by   RNGrad2006
    Quote from Aquarian
    I'm not sure I like this. I'm confused now!
    You don't need to worry. The way I understand it the quote you are referring to is for those who are here illegally and the way the US government wants to handle dealing with a "guest worker program". This does not apply to nurses who are legally coming to the US.
    Last edit by RNGrad2006 on May 17, '07
  2. by   Aquarian
    Quote from RNGrad2006
    You don't need to worry. The way I understand it the quote you are referring to is for those you are here illegally and the way the US government wants to handle dealing with a "guest worker program". This does not apply to nurses who are legally coming to the US.
    I certainly hope so. Thanks!
  3. by   CHATSDALE
    this is a sell out

    they won't care if they get our votes or not, they will have millions of illegals that they are going to fast track
  4. by   suzanne4
    All that was discussed today, and it still has not been voted on in the Senate, so has not gotten anywhere near being approved is strictly for illegal immigrants. And there was talk of 400,000 temporary worker visas. But these are not for nurses, and you would not want one. They will be good for two years only, and then required to leave the US for one year minimum. They are not renewable to continue to stay in the US at the end of that time period.

    And please be aware that most facilities will not touch anyone with that type of visa. Any hospital that is unionized will not permit a temporary worker visa like this. And no facility would want to train someone knowing that they have to leave after the two years since that visa cannot be renewed.

    Again, not one mention of nurses.
  5. by   harrn
    Quote from suzanne4
    All that was discussed today, and it still has not been voted on in the Senate, so has not gotten anywhere near being approved is strictly for illegal immigrants. And there was talk of 400,000 temporary worker visas. But these are not for nurses, and you would not want one. They will be good for two years only, and then required to leave the US for one year minimum. They are not renewable to continue to stay in the US at the end of that time period.

    And please be aware that most facilities will not touch anyone with that type of visa. Any hospital that is unionized will not permit a temporary worker visa like this. And no facility would want to train someone knowing that they have to leave after the two years since that visa cannot be renewed.

    Again, not one mention of nurses.


    Thanks for clearing doubts
  6. by   lawrence01
    Quote from RNGrad2006
    You don't need to worry. The way I understand it the quote you are referring to is for those who are here illegally and the way the US government wants to handle dealing with a "guest worker program". This does not apply to nurses who are legally coming to the US.
    Yes, this is correct. That particular part has nothing to do w/ nurses.
    The provision for nurses has always been green cards ever since and the provision that is widely expected to be part of CIR is the provision on no visa-cap until 2017.
    Last edit by lawrence01 on May 18, '07
  7. by   suzanne4
    And as I keep stating, you are never going to see no visa cap for nurses for ten years. The unions are much too strong for that. And the teamsters (the unions of the autoworkers) actually have some of the same union representation. CNA which is the largest CA union, is under the same union as this.

    Just is not going to happen. And once you were here, you would not want that, definitely not fair to American nurses..............agencies would be taking advantage of nurses all over the place. not a good thing.

    You want a green card, but you do not want the unlimited cap. Not good for anyone, on either side. Trust me on this.
  8. by   tutugirlBSN
    I agree suzanne. I just want to know how this whole immigration thing serves nurses
  9. by   lawrence01
    Quote from suzanne4
    And as I keep stating, you are never going to see no visa cap for nurses for ten years. The unions are much too strong for that. And the teamsters (the unions of the autoworkers) actually have some of the same union representation. CNA which is the largest CA union, is under the same union as this.

    Just is not going to happen. And once you were here, you would not want that, definitely not fair to American nurses..............agencies would be taking advantage of nurses all over the place. not a good thing.

    You want a green card, but you do not want the unlimited cap. Not good for anyone, on either side. Trust me on this.
    All I'm saying is that all previous versions of CIRs has always included that same provision. I think no foreign nurse is pushing if it should be a no visa cap for 10 years or cap-limited to a certain number per year just like an H1B. Foreign nurses know that they have no say on this and would just be happy whatever would be given and all I'm saying is the no visa-cap 10 year provision for nurses has always been included in every re-incarnation of and diff. versions of CIRs and it is widely expected that it would be again be part of this recent reincarnation.

    I understand that the nursing unions would not want this and for good reasons but that's what foreign nurses always read and what I'm just re-stating but whatever is ultimately given and included in the final CIR and if ever it would pass Congress I'm pretty sure foreign nurses will accept whatever it is and be happy with it.

    Foreign nurses would just be patiently waiting on what is the final provision for them if ever CIR passes in Congress.
    Last edit by lawrence01 on May 18, '07
  10. by   lawrence01
    Quote from tutugirlbsn
    i agree suzanne. i just want to know how this whole immigration thing serves nurses
    it is widely expected that there would be a provision for nurses incorporated in the final cir. you can refer to post #325 for it. whether it be a no visa cap or a cap-limited one is still up in the air and no one really knows for sure what the final provision will be until the final draft of the cir is made public (if ever it passes congress that is) but there will be one for nurses. besides, we don't have any say on it. we just have to wait what materializes and agreed upon.
  11. by   english_nurse
    all i want to know is

    when will i get there????

    no patience in our house lol
  12. by   4floridabound
    Past proposals for uncapped Sched A visas also includes the condition that this will only be for a certain period of time (2017) or until the Department of Labor continues to certify Sched A occupations as one of the shortage occupations.The DOL can revoke it anytime before 2017.
    Just an added info.
  13. by   Aquarian
    FYI, here's the summary of DHS regarding the Senate CIR deal:

    www.bibdaily.com/pdfs/DHS%20CIR%205-17-07.pdf

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