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  1. by   detroix
    Quote from lawrence01
    CIR is a total overhaul of the entire US immigration system. It has everything for everyone. If you'll read the Strive Act (this year) and the Senate Version (last year's) there are provisions for nurses. The current CIR also includes provisions for family-based petitions (w/ proposals that non-US born US citizens may not anymore petition their parents and siblings at whatever age, etc..) and employment-based petitions w/c includes increasing the visa numbers for all other working visa categories other than nurses. I say other than nurses because they have a separate provision for nurses (no cap until 2017). The whole EB system is backlogged or retrogressed and not just nurses. They are proposing to increase H1B visas to 115,000 from the current 65,000 because of the demand for foreign I.T. workers. They are increasing visa numbers for all other working visa categories.

    Other notable proposals is that AOS can now be filed even during retrogression but still have to wait for availability of visas.

    CIR is an all-or-none or a blanket reform as one poster here said. If it fails, it's not the end of the world. After it fails, everything will just go back to where how it is usually done. Separate stand alone legislations for immigration will be introduced left and right and legislated individually and this is where the 'bridge bill' or the recapture bill comes in for nurses. Other immigration reforms to fix other sections concerning them in the immigration system will have to be introduced by other parties individually as it has always been done.

    The CIR does not just concern illegals. This particular section of it is just what is the 'hot' issue and what everyone is more concerned about and what the US media wants to report as well but it is not the CIR. It is only part of it, albeit the most impt. issue.

    There will be no exclusions. If they do not agree and compromise on what to do w/ illegals then there is simply no CIR. Same as what happened w/ the failed CIR last year. It's all or none. But many actually wants to get over the CIR charade, pass or fail because if it finally fails they can already introduce individual bills (includes the recapture bill or bridge bill for nurses). All individual or stand-alone immigration bills hasn't been entertained or passed since last year simply because they want it to be part of CIR. If CIR finally fails this year and will not be tackled again until 2009, they will now entertain individual or stand-alone immigration bills just like what is usually done.
    thanks for clearing that up sir lawrence...
  2. by   lawrence01
    showdown brewing in senate over immigration reform
    wednesday, may 09, 2007
    by trish turner


    washington- a showdown on comprehensive immigration reform is set for next week as senate majority leader harry reid announced wednesday that in the face of republican filibuster threats he intends to bring to the floor the now unpopular bill that passed the senate last year.

    "everyone has known for months the timeframe that we have in the senate to do this. we have two weeks set aside," reid, d-nev., said, adding that he was using the measure merely as a placeholder for a bipartisan bill if one could be reached. reid said he would permit "an open amendment process."

    republicans who have been involved in backroom meetings with democrats and white house negotiators skeptical of reid's motives said they see the majority leader's move as a hostile one that could very well torpedo an intense, monthslong effort to design a compromise.

    chief republican negotiators sens. arlen specter of pennsylvania, john mccain of arizona, lindsey graham of south carolina and mel martinez of florida sent a letter to reid warning that they would "only support moving forward with legislation that is a product" of the current bipartisan effort.

    the bush administration is also interested in a new bill. homeland security secretary michael chertoff and commerce secretary carlos gutierrez began meeting with interested republicans senators months ago at the request of republican conference chairman sen jon kyl of arizona.

    click here for full article.
  3. by   lavalin
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    ]I know I speak for everyone here when I extend our gratitute and thanks for a great job to Suzanne. Bless this forum convened in goodwill for the benefit of those who serve.
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    ]Your presence has been an inspiration to all of us.
  4. by   lawrence01
    immigration deal is near, says specter
    by elana schor
    may 09, 2007


    the senate's bipartisan immigration talks yesterday yielded the first stirrings of a "grand bargain," but the fate of the compromise remained uncertain amid political pressure from interest groups and a potential filibuster.

    sen. arlen specter (pa.), the judiciary committee's ranking republican and leader of recent negotiations on immigration reform, took the floor to announce the progress and ask senate majority leader harry reid (d-nev.) for more time before the next week's floor deadline.

    "we have come to an agreement on what we have called a 'grand bargain,' which is the outline of an immigration bill," specter said.

    sanctions for employers who hire illegal immigrants, thousands of new border patrol agents and a trigger mechanism to tackle border security are all under consideration, specter said. but he warned that reid's plans to call up last year's senate-passed immigration bill-which has lost significant support-as a placeholder could bring the process to a halt.

    "[there is a gop] disinclination to support a motion to proceed" to last year's bill, specter said, "raising the possibility that there may be a filibuster there."

    lawmakers from both ends of the ideological spectrum believe time is growing short for an immigration bill that can pass both houses before presidential politics take hold. the spring's marathon talks have joined as many as a dozen senators with two cabinet members representing the white house, but few negotiators were openly optimistic until yesterday.

    reid's plans remained firm, launching tomorrow with a so-called "rule 14" filing on either last year's committee-passed or senate-passed immigration bill. he urged specter's group to offer language as a substitute or in several amendments to that placeholder measure.

    "senators have known for two months" that immigration would come up next week, reid told reporters yesterday. "anyone who thinks two months is not enough time to get ready should get another occupation."

    senate gop conference chairman jon kyl (ariz.), an opponent of last year's bill turned white house ally in the negotiations, tamped down talk of a filibuster on the motion to proceed to placeholder legislation-provided that it would be only a stand-in for a complete agreement that has yet to emerge.

    click here for full article.
  5. by   lawrence01
    Senate Majority Leader Reid announced that he would bypass the Senate Judiciary Committee and bring the CIR act of 2006 (last year's passed Senate version) directly to the Senate floor on Monday, May 14 for debate besides requests by a few Senators that the debates be delayed.

    Source: www.shusterman.com/
  6. by   lawrence01
    'bargain' aims to deal with border, then guest workers
    posted: 2:20 p.m. edt, may 9, 2007

    washington (cnn) -- senators may have mended fences on contentious immigration legislation that sputtered in congress last year, and they will head into next week's debate with what one gop senator called a "grand bargain."

    however, it's unclear if lawmakers will pick up where they left off, or if they plan to start anew.

    senators from both parties have hammered out an outline for a bill and "have come to an agreement on what we have called a, quote, 'grand bargain,' " sen. arlen specter, r-pennsylvania, said from the senate floor tuesday.

    speaking at a wednesday news conference, sen. patrick leahy, d-vermont, urged president bush to join the bipartisan group of senators in ushering a bill through the legislative process.

    "the president has got to be personally involved," leahy said. "you cannot just send up cabinet members and ask them to speak with a few members of the president's party and think that's going to get you through. you cannot issue great-sounding press releases on a take-it-or-leave-it basis."

    leahy said he believes the president is committed to solving the nation's immigration woes, "but this won't work unless he comes in and talks to both republicans and democrats and makes it very clear that he is behind our efforts."

    majority leader harry reid of nevada has set a monday deadline for beginning debate on the issue, but he has not indicated whether senators would discuss the old bill or a new one.

    "one of those two things i will bring to the senate floor, and that will be the working document that we will work from," reid said tuesday.

    bush and democratic leaders have generally concurred on immigration, much to the chagrin of bush's conservative base, which helped shoot down last year's legislation in the gop-controlled congress.

    click here for full article.
  7. by   bettyboop
    stupid question i know but does the CIR bill include anything for the lifting of retrogresion?
    Sorry for the question but getting very mixed up with different bills etc.
  8. by   lawrence01
    Quote from bettyboop
    stupid question i know but does the CIR bill include anything for the lifting of retrogresion?
    Sorry for the question but getting very mixed up with different bills etc.
    Yes, it does. Only question is if it will pass. Its an all or none thing. They have to agree on every aspect of the whole immigration overhaul. If they don't agree on what to do w/ illegals then CIR will not pass. However, it isn't the end of the world it it doesn't pass this year.

    A crude analogy (pls. excuse me for this) is that when there is a chance that a whole car be fixed one time and not fix it piece by piece or section by section then you would want to fix it one time. It will be arduous and long but it's really more practical, shorter, and cost-efficient to do so in the long run than having to fix it one part at a time. That's what they are trying to do w/ CIR. However, if they feel that they can't fix it as a whole then they will be forced to fix it bit by bit, as they always have.

    If CIR fails this year and they feel that a CIR will not be tackled again by 2009 then they will entertain the recapture bills we have been hearing. They haven't passed any stand-alone immigration-related bills since last year simply because there is a chance to fix the whole immigration system in one sweep via CIR. It isn't just practical to fix just one part of the car then having the whole car fixed anyway in just a short amount of time. This is why there were no immigration-related bills that were passed outside or before CIR.

    The immigration debates will definitely happen on May 14 and a Senate version introduced one way or another base on recent reports we posted here.

    This is it. If CIR passes, all is well. If it fails we can expect the recapture bill (stand-alone bill) will be entertained since there is no more chance for CIR until 2009, amid US Presidential elections in 2008.
  9. by   english_nurse
    sigh, politics are so complicated
  10. by   suzanne4
    A key thing is that nurses are not guest workers. They are not under the temporary work permits such as the H1-B. So guest worker issues do not affect nurses. This is the point that I am trying to make.

    I am sure that some of you do not like hearing this, but you only want the green card. Do not go for anything less.
  11. by   fruity
    Quote from suzanne4
    A key thing is that nurses are not guest workers. They are not under the temporary work permits such as the H1-B. So guest worker issues do not affect nurses. This is the point that I am trying to make.

    I am sure that some of you do not like hearing this, but you only want the green card. Do not go for anything less.
    If nurses will not be part of CIR...where it'll be? when are we going to be tackled.....aren't they going to inject some issues concerning nurses on the debate?
  12. by   lawrence01
    democrats postpone immigration vote to give bipartisan deal more time
    by associated press
    friday, may 11, 2007 - updated: 01:14 pm est


    washington - agreeing to give a fitful set of bipartisan talks more time to yield an immigration deal, senate majority leader harry reid said friday he would delay a vote on the issue until next week.

    the move postponed - at least for a day - what was shaping up as a partisan clash over immigration after weeks of negotiations between the white house and senators in both parties designed to strike a broad compromise.

    with that agreement still elusive, reid is planning to force debate next week on an immigration measure that passed the senate last year with wide democratic backing but opposition by a majority of republicans. gop senators have promised to block that move, saying they will only accept a new bipartisan compromise.

    "some of the senators feel that there’s a breakthrough that could take place" in talks over the weekend and early next week, said reid, d-nev., adding that he would "reluctantly" postpone the test-vote, which he had set for tuesday. he has now set the vote for next wednesday.

    sen. mitch mcconnell, r-ky., said the move would "give us the maximum opportunity to piece back together the bipartisan agreement that we thought we almost had a week or so ago."

    click here for full article.
  13. by   lawrence01
    Quote from lawrence01
    democrats postpone immigration vote to give bipartisan deal more time
    by associated press
    friday, may 11, 2007 - updated: 01:14 pm est


    washington - agreeing to give a fitful set of bipartisan talks more time to yield an immigration deal, senate majority leader harry reid said friday he would delay a vote on the issue until next week.

    the move postponed - at least for a day - what was shaping up as a partisan clash over immigration after weeks of negotiations between the white house and senators in both parties designed to strike a broad compromise.

    with that agreement still elusive, reid is planning to force debate next week on an immigration measure that passed the senate last year with wide democratic backing but opposition by a majority of republicans. gop senators have promised to block that move, saying they will only accept a new bipartisan compromise.

    "some of the senators feel that there's a breakthrough that could take place" in talks over the weekend and early next week, said reid, d-nev., adding that he would "reluctantly" postpone the test-vote, which he had set for tuesday. he has now set the vote for next wednesday.

    sen. mitch mcconnell, r-ky., said the move would "give us the maximum opportunity to piece back together the bipartisan agreement that we thought we almost had a week or so ago."

    click here for full article.
    this news just shows that the us congress (at least majority of them) do like a cir bill be passed this year.

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