Immigration News and Updates - page 21

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  1. by   suzanne4
    But you are not following what I am telling you. The US has been very liberal in their visas for nurses, it is just that they are currently used up. There is no reason for them to change any of the laws concerning this.

    Making a law does not create visas for nurses. And there are visas, it is just that nurses are not getting special privileges at the moment. But visas are still there.
  2. by   detroix
    i guess I've interpreted it in a different way. i could've said a bill that would be approved and give nurses a special privilege.

    thanks for notifying me.
  3. by   suzanne4
    But the question for you is why should they get a special privilege ahead of others? And before the US government comes up with a solution to the illegal immigrant problems? Which is most important due to the higher taxes that we are having to pay for their healthcare. Or what about the nurses that are coming over and working illegally since there are no visas available, and were well aware of that situation before they even came? And that it takes 5 months of being in the US waiting to do things legally when there are visas, so what about them posting that they started work one month after they arrived here on a tourist visa, when they do not even have a SSN#, and did not even pass the NCLEX until they were in the US?

    These things need to be cleared up before they deal with visas being available. For the ones that wish to do things the legal way. Perhaps you need to speak with some that are flaunting what they are doing and adding to the issues of their not being visas available.

    Immigration (ICE) is spending time conducting raids all over the country and they are hitting the nursing homes and these nurses are being placed in immigration detention, which is a jail. So until certain nurses start to follow the laws of this country, it also makes it worse for the others that wish to do things the right way. And that also needs to be fixed first, at least in my opinion.
  4. by   vermountindia
    Q;But the question for you is why should they get a special privilege ahead of others?
    A;According to US labour dept. nurses are only the profession they find manpower shortage.
  5. by   suzanne4
    Physical therapists also are included under Schedule A when it is available, it is not just for nurses. Other types of health care workers have also been included. It is definitely not limited to RNs, it is just that the others can also get the H1-B, but nurses cannot.
  6. by   RNKay31
    Listen to Suzanne, she knows best
  7. by   detroix
    you can't help it, there are people who doesn't follow the law.
  8. by   Aquarian
    Quote from detroix
    but they won't fast track nurses if they wouldn't need them immediately...

    well i guess you haven't experienced this retrogression thingy so you don't know how many of us feel.
    What you stated is quite unfair. Don't take it personally. If you will just take the time to read Philippine and International posts since way back, you will realize that Suzanne saved a lot of us Filipinos, and many others, lawyers' fees for the informative and accurate immigration issues she patiently explains even if a lot has been asked over and over again. And this is volunteer work.

    Many here will agree that Suzanne deserves an apology here.
  9. by   detroix
    sorry for that, i didn't know
  10. by   suzanne4
    Thank you for standing up for me and for what you know to be correct!
    Last edit by suzanne4 on May 9, '07
  11. by   suzanne4
    Quote from detroix
    you can't help it, there are people who doesn't follow the law.
    But that is where you are wrong.

    When you see someone bragging that they are working in the US as an RN, and you know that they just came over here a month ago, and on a tourist visa; then you know that it is not legal and you should say something about it.

    Or when someone is bragging that they did something that violates what CGFNS has mandated, they should be criticized, not applauded.

    This makes everyone look bad, and it definitely does not help anyone. And it also makes it more difficult for each and every one of you. What goes on in your country, is one thing and does not make a difference to us here in the US; but when it will affect care of the patients here, it is going to be everyone's concern here, and it should be.
  12. by   lawrence01
    Quote from detroix
    we're brought down by these illegal immigrants, i just hope our section in the CIR won't be excluded, it is really uncertain for them to pass this bill, because there are many oppositions against these undocumented aliens.

    i really wonder if I'll harvest what i worked out to be a US nurse. It feels so frustrating after you've gone all through of those hardships. then, the door has been slam shut right on your face.

    i think every single nurse who have their visa screen and employer ready feels the same way.

    just my 2 cents.
    CIR is a total overhaul of the entire US immigration system. It has everything for everyone. If you'll read the Strive Act (this year) and the Senate Version (last year's) there are provisions for nurses. The current CIR also includes provisions for family-based petitions (w/ proposals that non-US born US citizens may not anymore petition their parents and siblings at whatever age, etc..) and employment-based petitions w/c includes increasing the visa numbers for all other working visa categories other than nurses. I say other than nurses because they have a separate provision for nurses (no cap until 2017). The whole EB system is backlogged or retrogressed and not just nurses. They are proposing to increase H1B visas to 115,000 from the current 65,000 because of the demand for foreign I.T. workers. They are increasing visa numbers for all other working visa categories as well to solve their respective backlogs or retrogression.

    Another notable proposal is that AOS can now be filed even during retrogression but still have to wait for availability of visas.

    CIR is an all-or-none or a blanket reform as one poster here said. If it fails, it's not the end of the world. After it fails, everything will just go back to where how it is usually is done. Separate stand alone legislations for immigration will be introduced left and right and legislated individually and this is where the 'bridge bill' or the recapture bill comes in for nurses. Other immigration reforms to fix other sections concerning them in the immigration system will have to be introduced by other parties individually as it has always been done.

    The CIR does not just concern illegals. This particular section of it is just what is the 'hot' issue and what everyone is more concerned about and what the US media wants to report as well but it is not the CIR. It is only part of it, albeit the most impt. issue.

    There will be no exclusions. If they do not agree and compromise on what to do w/ illegals then there is simply no CIR. Same as what happened w/ the failed CIR last year. It's all or none. But many actually wants to get over the CIR charade, pass or fail because if it finally fails they can already introduce individual bills (includes the recapture bill or bridge bill for nurses) that will be entertained. All individual or stand-alone immigration bills hasn't been entertained or passed since last year simply because they want it to be part of CIR. If CIR finally fails this year and will not be tackled again until 2009, they will now entertain individual or stand-alone immigration bills just like what is usually done.
    Last edit by lawrence01 on May 10, '07
  13. by   detroix
    Quote from suzanne4
    But that is where you are wrong.

    When you see someone bragging that they are working in the US as an RN, and you know that they just came over here a month ago, and on a tourist visa; then you know that it is not legal and you should say something about it.

    Or when someone is bragging that they did something that violates what CGFNS has mandated, they should be criticized, not applauded.

    This makes everyone look bad, and it definitely does not help anyone. And it also makes it more difficult for each and every one of you. What goes on in your country, is one thing and does not make a difference to us here in the US; but when it will affect care of the patients here, it is going to be everyone's concern here, and it should be.
    k, and you are right...
    Last edit by detroix on May 10, '07

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