Immigration Issues that you need to be aware of - page 8

please read this closely: 1. the green card will not keep you from getting deported if you break the law in the us, something as simple as a dui can get you deported. 2. a visa out of status for... Read More

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    You are welcome and keep us posted on how it goes
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  3. Visit  onions29 profile page
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    Will do. Thanks again!
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    Immigration is very very gray area in USA.

    Seems like if you come to USA via plane then INS try to follow all the rules.

    If you try to come across the border by car or foot then they tend to turn a shy eye if you get caught. A lot of times they just decline entry and do not impose any penalty.

    In my city last year the local police were turning over illegal aliens to INS (Actually there was INS officer with a office at our local police department) if they were arrested and had no papers.

    After turning over a lot of illegals, the INS told our local police department to stop turning over Illegals unless they had a felony.

    Immigration in USA has no ryhme of reason.

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....213cfc62.html
    Last edit by redranger on Jan 28, '09
  5. Visit  Turtle08 profile page
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    Wow thanks for blowing the trumpet of doom as ever its just what foreign nurses need right now another scary lecture from those blessed with US citizenship!!!

    Why dont you just make the name of this forum International Scare and Dislike of foreigners forum and be done!!! The info you posted is common knowledge for everyone hoping to move to the usa we dont need the lack of visas rubbed in our faces AGAIN how about posting an uplifting and hopeful message for a change thats what people need in times like these
    Last edit by Silverdragon102 on Jan 28, '09 : Reason: TOS pm to member
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    Quote from redranger
    Immigration is very very gray area in USA.

    Seems like if you come to USA via plane then INS try to follow all the rules.

    If you try to come across the border by car or foot then they tend to turn a shy eye if you get caught. A lot of times they just decline entry and do not impose any penalty.

    In my city last year the local police were turning over illegal aliens to INS (Actually there was INS officer with a office at our local police department) if they were arrested and had no papers.

    After turning over a lot of illegals, the INS told our local police department to stop turning over Illegals unless they had a felony.

    Immigration in USA has no ryhme of reason.

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....213cfc62.html


    Even if you do a boarder crossing by land, a nurse won't be able to find legal employment as a nurse. So I don't get your point.

    The laws are clear it is the enforcement that is not uniform. But hospitals that depend on Federal and State money have to comply with the law.
  7. Visit  Ginger's Mom profile page
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    Quote from Turtle08
    Wow thanks for blowing the trumpet of doom as ever its just what foreign nurses need right now another scary lecture from those blessed with US citizenship!!!

    Why dont you just make the name of this forum International Scare and Dislike of foreigners forum and be done!!! The info you posted is common knowledge for everyone hoping to move to the usa we dont need the lack of visas rubbed in our faces AGAIN how about posting an uplifting and hopeful message for a change thats what people need in times like these
    I am sorry you feel that way. I see endless posts on how to file the paper work for visas, nclex, and renewing licenses with many helpful responses for free. Many of the negative posts are referring to the misinformation that others have been given. Most of this misinformation is very expensive to posters who don't have extra money to waste.

    The only country that I see that would welcome me as an American is Canada. Not one other country would let me practice or even attend school even if I paid a premium price. Not the Philippines or UK.

    It is hard to be welcoming when so many jobs are being lost. Even places like Microsoft and Yahoo and letting people go. Unemployed people means no health insurance. It is dismal I wish it would be better for immigrants since it would be better for me.

    I look at a place like the UK and wonder how wonderful it would be not to worry about Health Care Insurance, lots of time off and pension. The point I am making the grass often looks greener.

    The good news what goes down goes up, I wish I knew when this change would happen so I could tell you. It will happen I don't know when but it will happen.
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    Quote from suzanne4
    please read this closely:

    1. the green card will not keep you from getting deported if you break the law in the us, something as simple as a dui can get you deported.
    2. a visa out of status for any reason can get you deported. you get stopped for a traffic ticket, and out of status, do not pass go, and you will go to immigration detention.
    3. a ssn# that is not a legal number will also get you deported. they are verifying them when you apply for a license.
    4. does not matter if you have family, own a home, and a car, and even a business, if you get deported, you will be out of the country shortly, immigration does not care.

    right now, ins is in a surge mode to pick up anyone that they find illegal in the us, for what ever reason..........please do not let this happen to you.
    in california, they actually have immigration stops set up, and they are picking up people in large numbers. does not matter which country that you are from, how long that you have been in the us, etc. if you do not have a legal document permitting you to be in the us, you will be gone.

    please be very careful. and all of the above also goes to nurses that have overstayed visas, immigration does not care. and if you get deported, it will be ten years before you will be able to return.

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    after consulting with multiple immigration attorneys, it is not expected that any special visas for nurses will be available until the congress and the house of representatives create new visas, and not until later in the year. there will not be any schedule a visas appearing in the januray bulletin of the uscis until they become available. right now, there is no preference....strictly on where you were born.. if your country does not use up its allotment, then you will be able to get a visa earlier, otherwise all will be waiting. no special cicumstances apply here.

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    without having us citizenship, you do not have the same rights as far as immigration. scary, but it is true.


    for starters.........you have failed to mention one thing, what about the number of tourists who are entitled to enter the us without a visa every year and some of those are entitled to stay up to six months like that. secondly, ins has shown throughout the years that they do not have the resources to do sweeps as you say. hey if they don't have the manpower to guard the border every ten feet - they certainly don't have the manpower to sweep through california - lining everyone up and demanding identification. maybe a few sporadic stops here and there but certainly not to the degree that you are talking about.



    now here is some information that is verifiable - some states like oklahoma have passed laws which restrict the issuance of professional licenses (nursing included) to legal immigrants - others are following on their coat tails. the law that was passed and enacted is also tough on illegal immigrants. the local police and sheriffs are now entitled and empowered to pick up, detain and soon(if another law is passed this year) send home illegal immigrants. if you are a foreign trained nurse who is here legally, on visa, or as a tourist, or as a student on visa - you of course who have nothing to worry about.
    Last edit by Silverdragon102 on Feb 28, '09 : Reason: pm to member
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    Quote from suzanne4
    please read this closely:

    1. the green card will not keep you from getting deported if you break the law in the us, something as simple as a dui can get you deported.
    2. a visa out of status for any reason can get you deported. you get stopped for a traffic ticket, and out of status, do not pass go, and you will go to immigration detention.
    3. a ssn# that is not a legal number will also get you deported. they are verifying them when you apply for a license.
    4. does not matter if you have family, own a home, and a car, and even a business, if you get deported, you will be out of the country shortly, immigration does not care.
    hahahaha
    first of all - due process of law
    even immigration violations entitle you to rights - under your constitution.............

    Quote from suzanne4
    right now, ins is in a surge mode to pick up anyone that they find illegal in the us, for what ever reason..........please do not let this happen to you.

    ins cannot even patrol the border effectively - who would believe that they could run rampant across this vast country demanding documents from all to prove citizenship status? i would respectfully laugh in your face if you told me that you have been stopped by an ins agent going to the grocery store on saturday. realism.......

    Quote from suzanne4
    in california, they actually have immigration stops set up, and they are picking up people in large numbers. does not matter which country that you are from, how long that you have been in the us, etc. if you do not have a legal document permitting you to be in the us, you will be gone.
    this is really funny - what about the citizens of countries that are not required to obtain a visa for visiting? like lets say a canadian citizen - who btw is allowed to be in the usa for up to 6 months without a visitors visa is stopped at a border patrol station? they hand over the passport and no visa - hmmmmm are they going to detain them - no! my step daughter legally entered the united states in january on a one way ticket for oklahoma - then a month later i took her to a border crossing to obtain her td visa - they didn't detain her! not even when she enrolled in school - or went to the irs to apply for her itin..........

    Quote from suzanne4
    please be very careful. and all of the above also goes to nurses that have overstayed visas, immigration does not care. and if you get deported, it will be ten years before you will be able to return.
    you are partially right.....if you are caught and proven to be violating uscis laws, you can have a restriction placed on your name for reapplication but it is not ten years every time and in every case - it depends on what you have done.




    Last edit by Silverdragon102 on Feb 28, '09 : Reason: pm to member
  10. Visit  Ginger's Mom profile page
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    Couple of issues you need to be aware of.

    I see many commercials in prime time from this group;

    http://www.americanworker.org/

    Some one is funding this effort. I see more and more commercials.

    Second there is a show on a TV

    http://abc.go.com/primetime/homelandsecurity/.

    Perhaps there are not enough agents to enforce the law but it doesn't mean coming in illegally is legal. Shop lifting is often not caught but it doesn't mean it is legal.
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    Quote from Alexk49
    Couple of issues you need to be aware of.

    I see many commercials in prime time from this group;

    http://www.americanworker.org/

    Some one is funding this effort. I see more and more commercials.

    Second there is a show on a TV

    http://abc.go.com/primetime/homelandsecurity/.

    Perhaps there are not enough agents to enforce the law but it doesn't mean coming in illegally is legal. Shop lifting is often not caught but it doesn't mean it is legal.
    The first organization actually helped with getting the law in Oklahoma passed. Unfortunately, nursing got caught up in the stuff. If you are here legally as I am, you should not be looked down upon from all your American co-workers. My education, received in Canada, is the equivalent to 3 years college here.........hmmmmmm

    secondly, If the American Government worked a little harder - using their grossly oversized heads - they woudl figure out that opening up the worker visas - and following them closer, would generate more tax revenue, foster a more open approach to immigration on a country that was built on immigration, and resolve alot of the problems they have now with illegals. But no- let's take the heavy handed American approach and spend millions of dollars to ship these illegals back home just so they can run across the border again with their 10 gallon jug of water.

    Open your minds - not all foreigners are here illegally............
  12. Visit  Ginger's Mom profile page
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    I agree that there a difference between legal and illegal immigration. Also coming from Canada and Mexico is very different coming from another country to the USA.

    I am not a legal expert only a citizen. My observations are that as the economy worsens Americans are becoming less tolerant to immigration. This is only my personal observation in what I read and hear.
  13. Visit  Silverdragon102 profile page
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    When I visit the US I am from a country that participates in a visa waiver but I still have a form that is stapled into my passport and I have to give it back when I exit the US. We even recently have had a member on here who was deported from the US for 10 years as they discovered they was here illegal although entered legally. Things do change especially when economic situations change. Best things if in doubt is talk to a immigration lawyer with experience in the area you are in.
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    Quote from MedSurg32RN
    I look at a place like the UK and wonder how wonderful it would be not to worry about Health Care Insurance, lots of time off and pension. The point I am making the grass often looks greener.
    Hi

    Medsurg32RN after reading your post how wonderful it must be to not have to worry about health care insurance in the UK. I can say our health care system is not that great. It take months you get things like an MRI and CT scan people can be waiting years for surgery such as hip and knee replacements. The NHS does not pay for the best drugs that are available on the market because they can't afford them.

    I would also like to say that i pay for my healthcare and it is not free i pay 22% of my wages in taxes and then i have to pay a National insurance on top which covers healthcare.

    As a nurse working in the NHS sometimes it is not that great, depending on the department in which you work i have friends that are looking after up to 21 patients at a time with one health care assistant.

    So although we can just walk in to a hospital and get treatment it is not always the best. All of our nurses and Doctors try to do the best they can with what they have.

    I would just like to say that sometimes the grass is greener on the other side. Having lived in the UK and USA.



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