Agencies and contracts -- revisited - page 3

I am not against agencies in general, but only the ones that take advantage of nurses. Things to consider when going the route of using an agency: 1. There is absolutely no such thing as free... Read More

  1. by   chris_NC0112
    Thanks Suzanne, I do understand that there are consequences should I go through the agency process, however, I did try as well to apply through direct hire however, I was not successful and have not received any positive replies from the hospital I applied for. My nclex is under CA BON, and am looking for hospitals within the following, maryland, chicago, seattle and/or texas, nonetheless, I will still try to apply through direct hire, and should I be successful, I will have to forego the agency thing, but for now, it seems I have no options left to consider. Thanks for your reply.
  2. by   suzanne4
    You have many options available to you, do not sell yourself short. What type of experience do you have? And where do you really wish to work?
  3. by   chris_NC0112
    Quote from suzanne4
    You have many options available to you, do not sell yourself short. What type of experience do you have? And where do you really wish to work?
    Thanks suzanne, I have 11 years of experience working as a Nurse, have been to various fields, neonatal, surgical and medical and for the past couple of years, I have been into Recovery/Telemetry areas. I am contemplating on the following states: Texas, Chicago and/or seattle. I have passed nclex under Califoria BON, but has not been given a SSN yet. Still on the initial stages basically in applying for a US job. Hope anybody here could help share more information and I appreciate it so much.. Thanks....
  4. by   littleflower123
    Hi christie DM,
    I to was in exactly the same position as you and was in the depths of despair when every hospital in the city I wanted to go to turned me down flat. However, when I took a different approach and phoned my favourite hospital again (human resources dept) and asked them if they ever went through a recruitment agent in the city to fulfill their staffing needs it was a totally different story. They were only too willing to oblige and gave me the direct telephone number of the recruiter who worked directly on their behalf supplying them with a hospital contract too. It worked for me!!!!!

    Good Luck!!!
  5. by   chris_NC0112
    Thanks littleflower for sharing your ideas and experience, I think I will have to do that and will start doing it the earliest possible time to be able to know what my chances will be. Ill keep posted whatever developments may be as regard to my applications.



    Quote from littleflower123
    Hi christie DM,
    I to was in exactly the same position as you and was in the depths of despair when every hospital in the city I wanted to go to turned me down flat. However, when I took a different approach and phoned my favourite hospital again (human resources dept) and asked them if they ever went through a recruitment agent in the city to fulfill their staffing needs it was a totally different story. They were only too willing to oblige and gave me the direct telephone number of the recruiter who worked directly on their behalf supplying them with a hospital contract too. It worked for me!!!!!

    Good Luck!!!
  6. by   niq26
    my niece came here in the us as tourist after she graduated from PI 2005. she applied for nursing license at new mexico and took the test here in louisiana. she applied for receprocity at new jersey and got a contract through agency with 3 years contract. the agency reimbursed her plane ticket for $500, test review tuition for $300 (although she actually spend more than $3,000 - passed with 75 questions), nclex fee, paid for receprocity. the agency sponsored her and she is working at acute rehab center at andover with $24/hr. of course the agency is probably making $15 an hour from her, but this deal is not bad for a new graduate with no local license and no experience from the hospital. the agency do not have an office in the phil. but i will ask my niece the website of the agency and post it here to help out other nurses in the phil. it is a legit agency and the owner treat her nurses good and defend them from the facilities if they are being mistreated. my niece is only 23 yrs old, the agency found her a house to live walking distance from the facility and the nurses that she works with are nice to her and treating her like a baby since they are all experienced nurses from the phil.
  7. by   suzanne4
    Quote from niq26
    my niece came here in the us as tourist after she graduated from PI 2005. she applied for nursing license at new mexico and took the test here in louisiana. she applied for receprocity at new jersey and got a contract through agency with 3 years contract. the agency reimbursed her plane ticket for $500, test review tuition for $300 (although she actually spend more than $3,000 - passed with 75 questions), nclex fee, paid for receprocity. the agency sponsored her and she is working at acute rehab center at andover with $24/hr. of course the agency is probably making $15 an hour from her, but this deal is not bad for a new graduate with no local license and no experience from the hospital. the agency do not have an office in the phil. but i will ask my niece the website of the agency and post it here to help out other nurses in the phil. it is a legit agency and the owner treat her nurses good and defend them from the facilities if they are being mistreated. my niece is only 23 yrs old, the agency found her a house to live walking distance from the facility and the nurses that she works with are nice to her and treating her like a baby since they are all experienced nurses from the phil.
    There is no reciprocity, she went thru an endorsement process. There is also a retrogression in place and that route would be useless now.

    $24 is a lousy salary for that area. And the agency is making much more than that. First what they are getting from the facility, and then what they are taking from her.

    Sorry, but that is not a good contract, you may think so, but it is not.
  8. by   suzanne4
    Also it is almost impossible to get a tourist visa right now from the Philippines for the US. So unless the nurse had one from travels with her family that way is not going to work. US Immigration is also cracking down on this due to the number that came over and did not leave. It is actually against US Immigration law to come to the US for the sole purpose of finding a job and staying.

    Things have changed since your niece came here.
  9. by   trix_ctrn
    I know one agency that recruits nurses from the Philippines where the applicants don't have to pay for anything...as in $ 0. Applicants will be interviewed via video conference/ or one-on-one. If hired, agency will manage all the requirements. Employer will pay for everything...as in everything ( reviews, plane fare {for exams and going to US}, NCLEX/ IELTS fees, immigration fees). Then the employer also pays the recruiter per head, once the nurses gets here.
  10. by   suzanne4
    Quote from trix_ctrn
    I know one agency that recruits nurses from the Philippines where the applicants don't have to pay for anything...as in $ 0. Applicants will be interviewed via video conference/ or one-on-one. If hired, agency will manage all the requirements. Employer will pay for everything...as in everything ( reviews, plane fare {for exams and going to US}, NCLEX/ IELTS fees, immigration fees). Then the employer also pays the recruiter per head, once the nurses gets here.
    Sorry, but there is no such thing as any of that for free. The nurse will be paying for all of it out of their paychecks to a minimum of $5 per hour for the life of the contract. And there is not one employer that is paying all of that. The nurse will be paying $10,000 per year for that.

    Glad that you know of that agency, but all I can say is run from them. First tip, anything that sounds too good to be true, usually is. And any contract that has come from the Philippines like this, and the nurse is living and working like a slave. And where is this wonderful employer hiring for? You may also wish to look at that? There are some over there recruiting because no American wishes to work there because of safety issues.

    Suggest that you do your homework and do not listen to what an agency tells you.
  11. by   suzanne4
    Quote from trix_ctrn
    I know one agency that recruits nurses from the Philippines where the applicants don't have to pay for anything...as in $ 0. Applicants will be interviewed via video conference/ or one-on-one. If hired, agency will manage all the requirements. Employer will pay for everything...as in everything ( reviews, plane fare {for exams and going to US}, NCLEX/ IELTS fees, immigration fees). Then the employer also pays the recruiter per head, once the nurses gets here.
    And they also cannot even offer a job until either the CGFNS exam or the NCLEX exam is passed. And that is per the US government.
  12. by   trix_ctrn
    i know this is true for sure because almost 100 nurses in our hospital came from the philippines thru this agency (12 of them work in the unit i'm working)...and didn't pay for anything. i know it's too good to be true ...and it is. there is also no salary deduction. there's this one nurse who was also a new grad who got paid the same with me. even some of them have to take nclex again, they still paid for it. all they have to pay is their family's immigration fees and fares. but the nurses are well covered. if they break their contract, which is 2 years, they just have to pay a little amount (pro-rated). with this they also get free housing for 3 months and food stub from our cafeteria (i think good for 2 weeks). but of course they don't get sign-in bonus (since the employer paid for everything).

    of course, they have to pass nclex and ielts before they can come here. but one of them came here and took the exam here (she had visa to us prior to applying).

    and this is not just any hospital...it's a planetree, magnet teaching hospital that is also a regional center for health in new england.

    i know a lot of agencies that charges a lot for this, and the nurses even have salary deduction to cover all their expenses.





    Quote from suzanne4
    sorry, but there is no such thing as any of that for free. the nurse will be paying for all of it out of their paychecks to a minimum of $5 per hour for the life of the contract. and there is not one employer that is paying all of that. the nurse will be paying $10,000 per year for that.

    glad that you know of that agency, but all i can say is run from them. first tip, anything that sounds too good to be true, usually is. and any contract that has come from the philippines like this, and the nurse is living and working like a slave. and where is this wonderful employer hiring for? you may also wish to look at that? there are some over there recruiting because no american wishes to work there because of safety issues.

    suggest that you do your homework and do not listen to what an agency tells you.
    Last edit by trix_ctrn on Mar 8, '07
  13. by   suzanne4
    1. They cannot even be hired until they have passed one of the nursing exams, that is per legal requirement of the US government.

    2. If the hospital needed to hire 100 nurses from them, then that says that there is a problem there. Magnet hospital does not mean anything in the scheme of things with hiring.

    Right now, not one facility is doing anything anyplace because of the retrogression that is in place. They are not paying anything towards the visa bill, etc.

    We have seen so many people that have gone thru such horrible issues that I am unable to trust most of what I see coming out of Manila. Most of us here have.

    And twelve went to your unit? Then they were really short-staffed. What happened to the nurses in the area for not wanting to work there? There is more to the story. Have been doing this for way too long. Sorry.

    Still stick by what I posted. A hsspital is only going to pay those fees if they are really desparate.
    Last edit by suzanne4 on Mar 8, '07

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