Agencies and contracts - page 4

Please pay attention to your contract before signing it. There is no such thing as a free green card. The money for it will be coming from your pocket, not the agencies. In most cases, there is... Read More

  1. by   joecalifa
    HI I am an int student from Brazil, Rio, have been here since 2000. I am trying to find now some hospitals who can sponsor directly, instead of the agencies. After all this time here, I guess it might work out.
    I was told by some places that as long as I get a permit to work, which is the OPT after I graduate in may RN ADN. I can begin working and they would do the paper work( INS). I will graduate in may 06, what is the best time to get this OPT? I was wondering about working as RN IP before passing the board.
    I understand I also have to do the visa screen certificate, when would the best time to do it? Since my education was all in english here maybe I don't need to take the english exams right?
    Once again, thanks for your help.
    joecalifa
  2. by   carieviii
    hi everyone! i just want your comments regarding my situation,like if i did the right thing or not.
    me and my friends already financed and was able to pass our cgfns,toefl and ielts. we also paid for our visascreens and are now applying for illinois boards,. we dont have any work experience yet,and because of that we had difficulty finding our petitioner in chicago. then our friend in chicago recommended this agency,. with a bond of $15,000 for the nursing home and another $15,000 for the agency, 3 yrs contact and starting salary of $20 for a reputable nursing home, i inquired in the net regarding this nursing home and said that it is a ok and is located in a nice area in illinois. the only reimburseable fee is the nclex and the $500 that we gave to the agency together with the contract. i already have my tourist visa, but was too afraid to go to us direct coz i might be in an airport-airport situation bec. of me being a nurse, and i also considered the amount of time that it'll take me to get a working visa in the us..coz of that i signed the contract.. they said that it will take them 8-12 months to process our visas once we already passed the cg certificate in their agency. is our contract good? did we made the right choice?
    i desperately need all your feedbacks...thanks..
    Last edit by carieviii on Jan 27, '06
  3. by   suzanne4
    Quote from joecalifa
    HI I am an int student from Brazil, Rio, have been here since 2000. I am trying to find now some hospitals who can sponsor directly, instead of the agencies. After all this time here, I guess it might work out.
    I was told by some places that as long as I get a permit to work, which is the OPT after I graduate in may RN ADN. I can begin working and they would do the paper work( INS). I will graduate in may 06, what is the best time to get this OPT? I was wondering about working as RN IP before passing the board.
    I understand I also have to do the visa screen certificate, when would the best time to do it? Since my education was all in english here maybe I don't need to take the english exams right?
    Once again, thanks for your help.
    joecalifa
    Since you trained in the US, you are exempt from the English exams. Getting an OPT and working is completely different than being petitioned for a green card. You need to apply for the OPT before you actually graduate. And I do not personally like the IP, what hapeend if you do not pass, pluys if you are working full time, when are you going to study. I always recommend that you take the exam before you begin to work. You are going to be stressed enough with all of the new material that you will be learning when you begin work.

    You need to get a Visa Screen Certificate, but there is nothing that you can do about that until after you have actually graduated and have a final set of transcripts.

    Which city of state do you wish to work in? But make sure that you find a hospital that will do the petitioning for the greem card, not all will. The OPT doesn't require anything from them.
  4. by   suzanne4
    Quote from carieviii
    hi everyone! i just want your comments regarding my situation,like if i did the right thing or not.
    me and my friends already financed and was able to pass our cgfns,toefl and ielts. we also paid for our visascreens and are now applying for illinois boards,. we dont have any work experience yet,and because of that we had difficulty finding our petitioner in chicago. then our friend in chicago recommended this agency,. with a bond of $15,000 for the nursing home and another $15,000 for the agency, 3 yrs contact and starting salary of $20 for a reputable nursing home, i inquired in the net regarding this nursing home and said that it is a ok and is located in a nice area in illinois. the only reimburseable fee is the nclex and the $500 that we gave to the agency together with the contract. i already have my tourist visa, but was too afraid to go to us direct coz i might be in an airport-airport situation bec. of me being a nurse, and i also considered the amount of time that it'll take me to get a working visa in the us..coz of that i signed the contract.. they said that it will take them 8-12 months to process our visas once we already passed the cg certificate in their agency. is our contract good? did we made the right choice?
    i desperately need all your feedbacks...thanks..
    you had to give the agency $15,000 and the nh another $15,000? sorry but you got the royal screw. your salary shoud be about $30 oer hour for that area. and a nursing home where you are going to be legally responsbile for about 30 patients and you have no experience. shame on that agency. and nurses never have to payt for the bond....what is the cancellation clause of the contract?

    and how are they going to get you to the us in just eight months? they have absolutely no control over immigration policies.

    sorry, but you signed a lousy contract, and are stuck. you need to have alittle talk with your friend. the one issue that i do see, is not sure if immigration will even approve the petition with a salary that low for that area.
  5. by   carieviii
    Quote from suzanne4
    You had to give the agency $15,000 and the NH another $15,000? Sorry but you got the royal screw. Your salary shoud be about $30 oer hour for that area. And a nursing home where you are going to be legally responsbile for about 30 patients and you have no experience. Shame on that agency. And nurses never have to payt for the bond....what is the cancellation clause of the contract?

    And how are they going to get you to the US in just eight months? They have absolutely no control over immigration policies.

    Sorry, but you signed a lousy contract, and are stuck. You need to have alittle talk with your friend. The one issue that I do see, is not sure if immigration will even approve the petition with a salary that low for that area.
    suzanne, the $15,000 that i mentioned both for the agency and the nursing home is the bond that we have to pay if we dont finish the contract..
    oh my, i dont know what to say now:uhoh21:
  6. by   suzanne4
    If you leave the contract early for whatever reason, or they decide to cancel you, you will have to pay them $30,000. That is completely outrageous, especially after you paid for your fees, etc.

    And if it was a friend that referred you to these crooks, they would not longer be my friend.

    Did you contact this agency yourself or did they recruit you directly in the Philippines?

    If asking for my opinion, I would tell you to contact the legal aid website that I have posted above. You are throroughly getting taken advantage of.
  7. by   carieviii
    Quote from suzanne4
    If you leave the contract early for whatever reason, or they decide to cancel you, you will have to pay them $30,000. That is completely outrageous, especially after you paid for your fees, etc.

    And if it was a friend that referred you to these crooks, they would not longer be my friend.

    Did you contact this agency yourself or did they recruit you directly in the Philippines?

    If asking for my opinion, I would tell you to contact the legal aid website that I have posted above. You are throroughly getting taken advantage of.
    well my friend in illinois has a friend who went through this agency, thats why we were referred to her. and we were able to contact her through email, and we call her once in a while. thank u very much suzanne,.i really appreciate everything
  8. by   suzanne4
    Sorry, but your friend's friend got herself into a real mess. There is no reason that a nurse should be treated like that.
  9. by   suzanne4
    All of you are going to the US with a green card, as a law-abiding permanent resident of the US. To be treated the way that osme of you have is just revolting. You do not belong to anyone, you have rights of any other American here and please do not forget it.

    Many of you are in a hurry to get to the US, only to find yourself in a situation that I would not even put an animal in. And there is no reason that you need to put up with it.
  10. by   msrclim
    I have a contract with an agency in California. There is no set amount for the cancellation clause. However, it states that I will agree to reimburse the agency for any and all expenses they incurred in hiring me. At present, only the contract has been signed and they have not spent any money on my behalf. At most, they will only be spending for the lawyers and consular process fees. I have a copy of how much this will cost and how much they are paying the lawyers. At this point, can I still cancel the contract without paying any major amount based on the cancellation clause? How do you cancel a contract if you want to cancel it?
    Rita
  11. by   msrclim
    I am the nurse who posted the previous message. I also wanted to ask, if after I get my visa, I decide to terminate my contract with the agency, does that mean that the only amount I have to pay them will be the lawyers fees and the consular process fees (which amounts to about $8000 for a family of four)?
    Rita
  12. by   suzanne4
    Quote from msrclim
    I have a contract with an agency in California. There is no set amount for the cancellation clause. However, it states that I will agree to reimburse the agency for any and all expenses they incurred in hiring me. At present, only the contract has been signed and they have not spent any money on my behalf. At most, they will only be spending for the lawyers and consular process fees. I have a copy of how much this will cost and how much they are paying the lawyers. At this point, can I still cancel the contract without paying any major amount based on the cancellation clause? How do you cancel a contract if you want to cancel it?
    Rita
    Sorry, but you got the royal screw with that contract. Never, ever sign a contract like that where fees are not actually written into the contract. They can add in the cost of advertising, writing a letter for you, postage, etc. I have seen all types of things. They know quite well down to the penny what their costs are. If they do not write it, they are free to charge you whatever they want.

    You need to comtact a lawyer to get their opinion on this. Not their lawyer, who works for them and not you. I posted a website for pre-pad legal aid and they can help you with this. You will just need to review a few of the posts here to find it.
  13. by   suzanne4
    Quote from msrclim
    I am the nurse who posted the previous message. I also wanted to ask, if after I get my visa, I decide to terminate my contract with the agency, does that mean that the only amount I have to pay them will be the lawyers fees and the consular process fees (which amounts to about $8000 for a family of four)?
    Rita
    Sorry, but I am sure that they are going to charge you much more than that. Contact the pre-pad legal firm that I posted previously about.

    Did they tell you where you would be working? Or just any place that they would place you?

    Please send me the name of this agency by pm.

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