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- by junipers Apr 17, '11I am considering attending a masters-entry program for people who have a bachelors in a non-nursing field, and am wondering how employable I will be after graduating. The program I have been accepted to does not award a second bachelors, but I will be able to become an RN after one year (I have already completed a bunch of science prerequisites). I will then complete a year and a half of speciality training to become a certified nurse-midwife. At this point, I will have no experience as a nurse (besides clinicals and integration) and I am wondering if the lack of nursing experience will make it difficult to find my first CNM job. Does anyone have experience with finding employment as an NP (or CNM specifically) without nursing experience?
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- Apr 18, '11 by SkiBumNPAs some one who has just completed a masters-entry program i can say with the utmost certainty that you will be JUST FINE!
What many people don't like hearing is that the work as an Advanced Practice Nurse, NP, CNM you will be practicing MEDICINE not nursing.
so pay attention in school, do well on tests, rock out in clinicals, and when you graduate be ready to learn and work.
- Apr 19, '11 by junipersThanks SkiBum - yours is a very refreshing outlook!
Does anyone else have similar or opposing thoughts on this?
- Apr 19, '11 by ♪♫ in my ♥From zero clinical experience to a licensed provider in 2.5 years... Not touching me or my family... maybe a simple scrip for abx or something but really...
I'm totally down with APNs but to start the process with NO clinical experience is just wrong to me.
- Apr 19, '11 by SkiBumNPQuote from traumaRUsMany of us do not have years of nursing experience. The medical approach is all we know.I just gotta say that advanced practice NURSING is just that - NURSING!
Lol - yes, we follow the medical model but that does not denigrate our years of nursing experience.
- Apr 19, '11 by junipersThe skills of nursing and the skills of a midwife do overlap somewhat, and I can see where having some nursing experience may make me a better CNM. I think being very open to learning from fellow nurses and other midwives and NPs will also help me gain skills and be a better practitioner. I want to clarify that in order to get in to one of these programs, you have to have:
1. Life, work, and volunteer experience that shows that you are able to work with people in a clinical setting and are devoted to direct service.
2. Great grades in Anatomy and Physiology I and II, Microbiology, Chemistry, Nutrition, Human growth and development, Statistics, and sometimes a few others.
3. A bachelors degree (many applicants have degrees in social work, psychology, public health, woman's studies, or other subjects that make for well-rounded NPs)
So, I do believe that I can have the basis for being a great CNM after 2.5 years of intensive (no breaks, through the summers) training.
What does worry me is the feasibility of finding my first CNM position. Does anybody have any feedback on finding employment without working as an RN first?
Thanks for all of the comments!
- Apr 20, '11 by traumaRUsYou might contact your states APN organization for employment info.
- Apr 20, '11 by BCgradnurseI'm an FNP who completed a Masters Entry program. I had no trouble finding a job as an NP when I graduated in 2009. Most prospective employers were more concerned with my lack of NP experience rather than my lack of RN experience. Everyone in my class had jobs within 3 months of graduation. I think job prospects vary from region to region. I think Trauma's advice to contact your state NP association is a great idea. They may have job listings so you can see what employers are looking for.
- Apr 21, '11 by reeyaYou can find job. Some employers train you, some prefer you have nursing experiences. It is just matter of finding employers. Without nursing experience you may struggle in critical thinking initially but you will be competent as you garner experience yourself. You may take time but you'll get it. Get in a very good campus based program with labs/clinicals. Research your program what they offer. I would not go to an online accelerated program, definitely not.
@SkiBump: No, we are not educated in medical model (PA is medical model not NP-is advanced nursing). The most important thing about having nursing experience is the critical thinking component that comes with you being a RN. No textbook can replace the critical thinking. Emergency situations handling that comes only with experience, doesnt matter if you're educated in nursing or medical model. Nursing is not just wiping butt !! Most of the skills EKG, NG tube, IV, heart/lung sounds/ability to recognize change in pt condition, differentiating early s/sx vs. late s/sx, participating while code is running comes with RN experience. Dont ditch nursing skills just by saying oh we are educated in medical models because we're not. We may be diagnostician, primary providers, mid level providers but having that nursing skill is better than none.