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Oct 28, 2009 05:57 PM

Anyone heard anything about no more masters degrees?


I'm in a BSN-RN program and one of our instructors mentioned how supposedly, there will be no more MSNs - everyone will be required to get doctorates, sort of like what happened to the physical therapy profession (they all have to get doctorates now). She said all existing MSNs and masters degree nurses will be "grandfathered" in, but for any of us looking to go into advanced practice, it's going to be a lottttt more school.

Is this true? I'm assuming it is seeing it came from one of my most knowledgeable professors, but it just seems weird to me. If it is true, does anyone have any info on new requirements/when this is going into effect/etc.?

Confused... worried... needing info!

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from acubed
Old Oct 28, 2009, 06:01 PM

Default Re: Anyone heard anything about no more masters degrees?
I would assume that she means eventually, as in it's in the talking stage but not the works. I know a school that is beginning a accelerated BSN and online masters in 2011, so I would say not now, but maybe someone else can shed some light on this matter.
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from quetepye
Old Oct 28, 2009, 06:05 PM

Default Re: Anyone heard anything about no more masters degrees?
I know. I Googled it, etc. and I'm not even sure where to go to find more info. Our school used to have a bachelors-MSN straight program (partially online) where you would go for your RN-BSN while taking a few "different" courses that were harder and could count for a MSN degree track, but there is no info on our website about it anymore...

Someone here has to know something, I'm sure!
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from MassED
Old Oct 28, 2009, 06:09 PM

Default Re: Anyone heard anything about no more masters degrees?
well then I guess more "would be" nurses might go to medical school - probably would be the same effort as getting your doctorate in nursing. I haven't heard this, but without knowing any more information, perhaps your instructor means his or her field - teaching. Maybe this is where having a doctorate would be beneficial.

What would the practicing nurses in a doctor's office, that obtained their doctorate to be in practice, be called? Doctor nurse such and such? Still to be called a nurse, but yet you're a doctor, working under a doctor... it's all too confusing.
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from quetepye
Old Oct 28, 2009, 06:18 PM

Default Re: Anyone heard anything about no more masters degrees?
VERY confusing!
There are already "doctor nurses" with of course the standard doctorate and now the "doctor of practice" degree they recently approved (last few years maybe?).
Honestly? I LOVE the approach of nursing, but if I knew this 5 years ago? I may have looked at the time comparisons and gone to med school. Who knows.
And FYI the instructor said advanced practice as in NPs, MSNs, CNSs, etc.
SCARY
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from HeartsOpenWide
Old Oct 28, 2009, 06:20 PM

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NPs will be required to have a DNP by 2015. Those with lower degrees will more than likely be encouraged to go back for their DNP with lower wages than those with DNP
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from rn/writer
Old Oct 28, 2009, 06:25 PM

Default Re: Anyone heard anything about no more masters degrees?
Originally Posted by HeartsOpenWide View Post
NPs will be required to have a DNP by 2015. Those with lower degrees will more than likely be encouraged to go back for their DNP with lower wages than those with DNP
What is your source for this information? Isn't it up to the individual Boards of Nursing to decide for each state?
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from quetepye
Old Oct 28, 2009, 06:32 PM

Default Re: Anyone heard anything about no more masters degrees?
Originally Posted by HeartsOpenWide View Post
NPs will be required to have a DNP by 2015. Those with lower degrees will more than likely be encouraged to go back for their DNP with lower wages than those with DNP
Do you have a link to "official" information on this? Is it ONLY nurse practiioners that are affected, or other APNs as well? Will existing NPs be "grandfathered in" or will they all have to get DNPs?

How much schooling is it from a masters to a DNP? Will those with only a BSN - and wanting to be a DNP - have to go straight to a DNP now instead of getting the MSN? How many years is that?

So confusing!!!
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from elkpark
Old Oct 28, 2009, 06:47 PM

Default Re: Anyone heard anything about no more masters degrees?
There are a kazillion existing threads here about this issue that you could search and find if you want to read more. The AACN is proposing that the DNP degree become the mandatory minimum preparation for all four of the advanced practice roles. At this point, it's still a proposal, not a requirement. A whole lot of other parties (including all the state BONs) would have to climb on the bandwagon for that to happen.
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from quetepye
Old Oct 28, 2009, 06:53 PM

Default Re: Anyone heard anything about no more masters degrees?
Originally Posted by elkpark View Post
The AACN is proposing that the DNP degree become the mandatory minimum preparation for all four of the advanced practice roles.
Right now does EVERY APN (NP, CNS, etc.) degree consist of a MSN? Or is that something you get first?

And what are the "four" advanced practice roles? Are they the only types of the APN/MSN/? you can get? I would LOVE a "masters/advanced practice" for dummies primer, lol If you have a link or know of a post, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks for your input.
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