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Anyone heard anything about no more masters degrees?



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No. 10
from LisaMSN
Old Oct 28, 2009, 07:38 PM

Default Re: Anyone heard anything about no more masters degrees?
I don't understand what's confusing or scary. Perhaps you can elaborate.

NP/CNS/CRNA/CNL require a MSN (as far as I know). If you do some research, you'll see that any NP/CRNA programs require more hours to obtain a Masters than say a education degree. Many educators feel that the majority of CRNA programs should be conferring a doctorate on their graduates now because of the amount of work (education/clinical hours) required.
Yes, it is a recommendation that APNs be required to have a doctorate by 2015. It was also a recommendation that all RNs have a BSN by 1985 back in the day.
Doctor is a title used by those who have a doctorate degree. A medical doctor is a physician. Don't you have professors with PhDs? Don't they deserve to be called Dr. So and so? Its not confusing to a patient if you introduce yourself as Dr. Smith, "your nurse practitioner."
I'll try to answer any questions you may have.
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No. 11
from elkpark
Old Oct 28, 2009, 08:03 PM

Default Re: Anyone heard anything about no more masters degrees?
The four advanced practice roles are NP (nurse practitioner), CRNA (certified registered nurse anesthetist), CNS (clinical nurse specialist), and CNM (certified nurse midwife). There are lots of other master's specializations in nursing, also -- education, administration/management, clinical nurse leader (CNL), informatics, probably lots of others I can't think of at the moment -- but those are not considered advanced (clinical) practice, and no one is talking about making them doctoral degrees.

The four AP roles currently require an MSN as the minimum educational preparation (that's been the case for many years now).

DNP programs are certainly springing up all over the place like mushrooms after a spring rain. Many advanced practice MSN programs are currently transitioning into DNP programs. However, As LisaMSN notes, there are groups within nursing that have been proposing that the BSN become the minimum entry into nursing for at least thirty years now, and we're no closer to that happening than we were thirty years ago. In order for this new DNP-for-advanced-practice thing to become a requirement instead of a proposal, a whole lot of people (organizations) who don't seem particularly enthusiastic about the idea would have to buy into it.
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No. 12
from traumaRUs
Old Oct 28, 2009, 08:08 PM

Default Re: Anyone heard anything about no more masters degrees?
Yeah and BSN will be the entry level into the RN profession! I wouldn't hold your breath for either eventuality.

Many threads on this subject and this is only a suggestion, nothing at all mandatory.
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No. 13
from LisaMSN
Old Oct 29, 2009, 07:59 AM

Default Re: Anyone heard anything about no more masters degrees?
Elkpark, you're right. I forgot the CNM in my original post. I think the CNL is a generalist type masters and not considered an advanced practice nurse. Sorry for the mistake.
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No. 14
from elkpark
Old Oct 29, 2009, 02:31 PM

Default Re: Anyone heard anything about no more masters degrees?
Originally Posted by LisaMSN View Post
Elkpark, you're right. I forgot the CNM in my original post. I think the CNL is a generalist type masters and not considered an advanced practice nurse. Sorry for the mistake.
Actually, I wasn't sure whether you meant "CNL" or it was just "CNM" with a typo. Anyway, no, the CNL role is not considered advanced practice.
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